December 07, 2012

Lugh's Den 9, 2012.12.07


Tonight I'll be discussing where we should go from here.. what we need and what we don't need... religion and racial issues.. and making something that will work. Open lines.

Kyle Hunt Calls Lugh in the second hour. Trolls and Celtic Rebel call in too. LOL

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  1. It's sad that I have to do this but gullable well meaning idiots keep thinking it's a good idea.. so here's some CI/BI debunking links:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Israelism#Compatibility_with_present-day_research_findings
    https://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/IsChristianIdentityTrue.html
    http://british-israelism.blogspot.ca/2012/07/british-israelism-serpents-tale.html
    http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/rr/blrr_ci_origin.htm
    http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/rr/blrr_ci_origin.htm

    Just because these idiots have a swastika on their website doesnt make them cool. Look at Frank O'Collin (Cohen), who pretended to be a neo nazi to make the news and get legislation and funding that was pro jewish.. http://www.americanussr.com/nazi-leaders-jewish.htm

    Don't you think it's funny that every American white "terrorist" and many murderers have been affiliated with CI?
    Waco, Ruby Ridge, McVeigh, Gordon Kahl and most recently a serial killer by the name of Israel Keyes... and the list goes on..
    Do I need to drill it into your head that this is a fuckin set up to 1) keep aryan peoples from discovering their true heritage and inate powers and 2) set up the entire anti zionist movement into looking like psychopathic buffoons ?
    To me it's pretty obvious, color me crazy...

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  2. Show notes:

    Jews are not Khazars:

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/archives/Sallis-Archives.html
    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/07/who-are-the-jews/

    Nazi Milk Girls:

    http://pigroll.com/img/nazi_girls_love_milk.jpg

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  3. "inate powers" of Lugh -LMAO

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  4. Suggestion: please get someone on who is able to speak knowledgeably about this (for OR against - I'm interested in getting an up to date informed assessment of its plausibility):

    http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t361396-3/

    ""There is very very strong evidence to suggest that the King Arthur and Odin-THor legends actually came from Sumeria. The rig Vedas speak of a great Sun King who destroyed the moon and snake worshipping cults which were led by one Epeli of Iotun Garti (Abel of the Garden of Eden).
    This King, amongst his many names and titles was referred to as Lord (IN) Udu or Odo which becomes Udu-In or Odo -In or Odin. One of his titles was Lord of the Deer or In-Dara or Indra or Andrew. In India to this day, their word for THursday or Hor's day is Guru-day which has come down to us as Ge-Org or George. Saint (Xanthos in Greek for Blonde) George as his standard, flew the red cross. So did the Sumerian Lord Udu. In his human reflex he is known AS Ada-Mu or Adam in the Hebrew Bible.
    Typically of the Hebrew propensity for lying and twisting ancient Aryan mythologies to suit themselves, they turned Cain into the bad guy and Abel into the good guy. Not surprising since the aforementioned serpent and moon worshipping cults were comprised of very early Semites. I could be wrong here but I think they were called the Chaldeans. This great Sun King also had the title of Can, Con and Gon from which the Hebrews created the evil Cain.""

    Junk history or no?

    See "The British Edda"(1930) also by L.A. Waddell in which he expands upon the Biblical inversion of the Cain/Abel (historical-)myth.

    L.A. Waddell: "The Makers of Civilization in Race and History" (1929).

    http://www.mediafire.com/?1qzyijuxwnu (zip of PDFs, 33.3MB, page images only, no searchable text).

    L.A. Waddell: "The Phoenician Origin of Britons, Scots & Anglo-Saxons" (1925)
    http://www.archive.org/details/ThePhoenicianOriginOfBritonsScotsAnglo-saxons


    Waddell (died 1940) got roasted here:

    http://www.archaeologybulletin.org/article/view/bha.20106/51

    -- but 'Gabriel Moshenska' IS at the UCL Institute of Archaeology, part of UCL where former Fellow Nick Kollerstrom ('Terror on the Tube') was iirc expelled(?).

    Waddell has also been criticised online for his 'deceitful' quoting of numerous sources to support substantially improbable conclusions.

    Either way it could make an interesting show if the principal speaker actually knows the subject w/o having to research it from scratch.


    Pile - The Five Races of Europe:

    "Nowhere in all these parallel versions except in Genesis is Abel a brother of Cain. On the contrary, he is the mortal enemy of the Goths, and the leader of the human-sacrificing serpent-worshippers, and the successor of his father Satan or Wotan. Abel is Loki in the Eddas, the Green Man of the Arthurian Legend and the Baal or Bal of the primitive religions. All versions agree as to the killing of Bal by Cain, and the name Tu-Bal-Cain means Cain-killer-of-Bal. Our rediscovered history identifies Tu-Bal-Cain with Cain and with Gan, the second Sumerian king. It shows his killing of Bal as the final act in establishing the ascendancy of Adam-Tor and his Goths over the serpent worshipping, human-sacrificing aborigines of Chaldea."



    c.f. KJV - Ezekiel 39:1: "Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I [am] against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal...." [etc etc]

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  5. @Lugh re: your CI debunk-ist, I forgot this posted from time to time, to be found various places e.g. also scribd iirc:

    http://jordanmaxwell.com/images/documents/us-congressional-record-1940-british-israel-world-$1.pdf

    -- read especially under heading PROOFS OF BRITISH-ISRAEL TRICKERY".

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  6. FYI: There were two King Arthurs!

    The real Welsh (ie British) history (which has been highly suppressed over generations), DOCUMENTS this quite clearly, with dates, genealogical lineages and artifacts.

    The official history of the usurper late-comers, ie England, dismiss all this as BS - but you guys, of all people, should be able to work out why that was/is.

    Here's an overview of what is really a very fine body of work.

    http://www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=91&part=1

    If anyone has an informed and serious counter-claim I'll be happy to respond if I can, but one-line dismissals and pissing up the wall will be ignored.

    For my money, this is the truth. Take it or leave it...

    S4M/IP

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  7. The Bible is bascially a collection of stolen and inverted stories from other mythologies.
    For example, "The Hanged Man is also associated with Odin, the primary god in Norse mythology. Odin hung upside down from the world-tree, Yggdrasil, for nine days to attain wisdom and thereby retrieved the runes from the Well of Wyrd, which in Norse cosmology is regarded as the source and end of all sacred mystery and knowledge. The moment he glimpsed the runes, he died, but the knowledge of them was so powerful that he immediately returned to life.", this is parallel to Christ on the Cross.. but instead of attaining wisdom it's because "you're a naughty boy and you have to do what we tell you". The "King David" story was actually stolen from the story of "Lugh", and the list goes on. They completely flipped out mythology and use it against us.
    Like I have said many times, the primary weapon of the Jew is his power of inversion. He twists and perverts the truth and uses it against us, not unsimilar to a cancerous cell.
    When we look at White Supremicism, it was largely forced into being framed as "the master race" of cruel rules and haters of other races.. this is the role that is sought by the Jew.. and he projects that onto us. True Aryanism is that of the benevolent racial aristocracy.

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  8. Yes, there are many books tracing the "borrowings" in the Bible generally e.g.

    1) Thomas W. Doane: "Bible Myths and their Parallels in other Religions" (7th ed., first published 1882),
    http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=doane%20bible%20myths
    OCR-text only: http://www.archive.org/details/biblemythsandthe31885gut

    2) Kersey Graves: The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors (1875) extracts:
    http://martianvisitor.com/Sixteen.html

    if links now dead searching will find... others include Frazer: "Folk-Lore in the Old Testament" (1923), and, more generally:

    3) Salomon Reinach: "A Short History of Christianity" (transl., Putnam 1922),
    http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=Reinach%20A%20Short%20History%20of%20Christianity

    4) Joseph Wheless: "Is It God's Word?" (1926),
    http://www.4shared.com/get/u589WsBM/Is_It_Gods_Word__Joseph_Wheles.html


    "The Ass in the Lion's Skin" by Anon. was a good read but not footnoted. On archive.org or scribd.com ....

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  9. Lugh,whats the name of the song in the begining?

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  10. @Lugh wrote: "When we look at White Supremicism, it was largely forced into being framed as "the master race" of cruel rules and haters of other races.. this is the role that is sought by the Jew.. and he projects that onto us. True Aryanism is that of the benevolent racial aristocracy."

    Yup, that statement is right on the money and exactly in line with what I've thought about the same subject before. What's wrong with the Japanese, for example, copying the Aryans & bettering them at their own game with their great cars & electronics and pianos and everything else ? Nothing. The whole world benefits.

    It is not the fault of the Reptilian Aliens that the Aryans copied that the rest of the civilized world has copied the Aryans a lot more than vice versa. That's just a historical fact. The envy this produces in some races is unbearable to them, so they are good prey for the hatred projection of the most envious: the Jews. The Japanese & Chinese or even the Koreans don't seem to have a problem with it because they know they can achieve advanced industry based on the same model. They get over their inferiority complex quickly. Even the Indians are very confident in their own intelligence despite the epidemic of poverty & backwards-assed-ness in their country.

    If you just take Germany and ignore all the other Aryan nations: what is the country of Bach, Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Goethe, Schiller, Schopenhauer, Rilke, Nietzsche, Wagner, Schubert, Schumann, Karl Benz, Gottlieb Daimler, Wilhelm Maybach, Ferdinand Porsche, Max Planck, Gustav Hertz, Johannes Stark, Werner Heisenberg, Stockhausen, Kraftwerk, etc., etc. but that of a benevolent aristocracy ?

    And what percentage of the country with the highest standard of living in the world, the USA, was mainly from German stock during WWII when Germany, which was well on its way to surpassing the usury-shackled JewSA at that time, was attacked ?

    Over 50% - it's down to only about 17% now.

    Hitler's Germany never had the type of outright bigotry they had in the American South after the civil war or in most of America for that matter. Just go read what Lawrence Dennis, W.E. Dubois, Jesse Owens wrote to start with.

    The memoirs of Hans Massaquoi, although, technically a Hitler-bashing book, also give a lot away as to how far less bigoted the Germans, even hardcore NSDAP members, were at that time compared to the USA. Even Massaquoi's own uncle treated him differently in the USA (where he was embarrassed for his neighbors to know he had a black nephew) than he did in Germany.

    Only 2% of Germany was non-Aryan at that time and by 1936 Hitler had turned the 44% free vote he got in 1933 to a 98% free vote for the NSDAP & they were rolling. They had so much work, they had to hire foreign workers to pick up the slack.

    Germans just had racial citizenship laws instead of based on whether you were born there or how long you lived there. If you were non-Aryan, you were limited to the skilled trades and that was it & if you got caught banging white women (not rape, consensual bang), you paid a fine, spent some time in jail or were demoted from your job but nobody lynched your ass from a tree. Even Jews could own guns up to 1938.

    And despite 400 years of immigration, the USA itself was 90%white European stock even up until the mid 1960's and the passage of civil rights so none of the decline of the whites can be blamed on individual rights but its opposite principle of enforced group privileges. There were lots of Mexicans in those days too but they knew that if they ran, jumped or swam the border, nobody over there was going to give them a damn thing for a handout so they thought twice about their olympic triatucothalon or went back to Mexico.

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  11. The potty-mouthed female (Hasbara troll?) caller @1:21:18 really threw you (Lugh/Kyle) askew and the rest of the show was the product of the resulting distraction i.e. mainly a waste of time.

    Easy to be wise after the event, but learn from this:

    1. don't take callers at face. And if they cuss and swear, they are likely trash. By Their Fruits Ye Shall KNow Them is one thing in the Babble that does make sense.

    2. this little demonstration illustrates how Might drives out Right, how brutality eliminates the refined... how bad money drives out good. A law of survival is the stronger party will win. You (mainly Kyle) seemed completely thrown off balance by this caller. If you can't yet think on your feet and/or take fright, and it's taking the show off topic, CUT OFF THE CALL.

    The show starts and ends with the usual noize-muzik. Why not differentiate yourselves and put some decent classical in for a change? Supposed to be good for the brain.

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  12. To the last post:
    Distraction? Did you hear her call? She was talking about the hypocrisy of what Celtic Rebel and Kyle Hunt were posting in the chat room while pretending to have an intellectual dialogue.

    If I wanted to listen to the ridiculous porn, misogyny and celebrity worship, I would go to a Howard Stern chat room. I thought they were supposed to expose the Jewish problem; however, they ARE the problem.

    Hasbara troll? How about a Habara host?

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  13. You're right. Exposing Hollywood definitely doesn't help us stop the Jews.

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  14. "By the turn of the 20th century there were 16 central banks, all except 2 in Europe:

    England
    Sweden
    Denmark
    Holland
    Belgium
    France
    Spain
    Portugal
    Italy
    Austria
    Germany
    Serbia
    Romania
    Bulgaria
    Japan
    Indonesia Java

    After world war II the numbers expanded phenomenally.

    The primary reason for world war I was to destroy the State Bank of the Russian empire. The secondary reasons were to break up the other empires - the Austro-Hungarian, German & Ottoman - into smaller states so that exploit them more efficiently through central banks and last but not least, the theft of Palestine.

    So after WWI there was this huge expansion of central banks.

    At the conference of Genoa in 1922, attended by the governors of the various central banks and the heads of state, Montague Norman, the governor of the Bank of England and a freemason, insisted that central banks should be independent of their governments.

    In other words, they would be acting solely on behalf of private banking interests, not the state.


    All these central banks were also being established at the same time as the establishment of the Bank of International Settlements in Basel which is the central bank of the central banks.

    The Bank of International Settlements does not pay any tax. It is above and beyond the law, immune from any regulation or oversight and, of course, it's ultimate control lies with the House of Rothschild through its investments in various central and private banks.

    The purpose of WWII was to destroy the State Bank of Germany, the State Bank of Japan and the State Bank of Italy, followed by the dissolution of the European colonial empires and again to allow another huge proliferation of central banks, so that today we have 155 central banks !!

    The only countries that are left of the 155 are the so-called 'axis of evil' which is currently Iran, North Korea and Cuba. Former members of the this 'axis of evil' that were recently taken out were Iraq, Libya and currently Syria which is still fighting these bastards trying to take it out."

    from

    Spingola Speaks with Deanna Spingola - 10 / 01 / 2012 - Guest: Stephen Goodson, a former (non-executive) Director of the South African Reserve Bank

    http://k006.kiwi6.com/hotlink/919owrhusi/spingola_speaks_2012.10.01.mp3

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  15. (continued)

    "So virtually every country in the world now has a central bank and has to obey the International Bank of Settlements, the central bank of the central banks, because THEY decide the amount of reserves each country has to retain and although it's not a legislative body, everyone follows it, and if you don't, well, people won't trade with you or you'll be excluded from the International Banking Settlement system and you have no choice.

    They also starve people into joining the World Trade Organization by putting sanctions against them until they follow through.

    So all these legislators who have passed private central banks into law have actually committed treason because they have taken away the essential power, the essential sovereignty of a nation and made it subservient to an international clique of criminals.

    There are 4 things that are essential to independence. You need to have:

    Food independence
    Energy independence
    Military independence

    and then above all:

    Monetary independence

    Without monetary independence the rest do not actually count.

    People say that a 'New World Order' is coming but actually it's already been established for at least a hundred years now, the only thing that's not evident is that the coronation hasn't taken place.

    Between 1820 and 1910 the American dollar RETAINED its purchasing power. In other words, a dollar was still worth a dollar 90 years later.

    Within six years of the Federal Reserve Bank being established, the prices between 1914 and 1920 increased by 56 percent !

    Since then, there have been 18 recessions, 2 depressions if you count the current one, and the dollar has lost 97% of its value !

    That is a more than sufficient indictment of the total failure of private central banking and the enormous damage it has caused to society, not only through the wars but in the undermining of social ethics, etc."

    from

    Spingola Speaks with Deanna Spingola - 10 / 01 / 2012

    Guest: Stephen Goodson, a former (non-executive) Director of the South African Reserve Bank

    http://k006.kiwi6.com/hotlink/919owrhusi/spingola_speaks_2012.10.01.mp3

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  16. Lugh, just for the record, do I fall into this category?

    "gullable well meaning idiots"

    Why do certain radio personalities posted on this blog continue to attack or criticize the styles and topics discussed by other radio hosts? Why don't we all just do our own thing and hear people out before jumping to conclusions? Lugh, you went crazy for like 4 or 5 comments on my past show, but the first one was this:

    "Stopped listening at Christian Identity."

    You didn't even listen to what Finck said for 2 hours, then do this show and utilize ADL/SPLC talking points to characterize Christian Identity, failing to address even one of the core points they raise about the history of the white race, who the Jews really are, who the people of discussed in the Bible really are, etc.

    Lugh, instead of acting like the thought police of internet talk radio, why don't you focus on what you're about, your ideas, solutions, etc.?

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  17. Lugh has an axe to grind, hes the self appointed thought police in command of group think.

    Think like LUGH believe like Lugh or be attacked by Lugh

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  18. 80% of CI is BI and the only thing different is it says all the Jews are white and not 100%.
    It's all been debunked long ago. The SPLC leave out the fact that it's a Jewish honeypot and counter intelligence operation. Look at how all these CI affiliated groups / operations have set back the resistance.. Ruby Ridge, OKC bombing, WACO.. all designed to make us look crazy and enfringe crippling laws against us.
    But if there is a point you want refuted pick any one what so ever and I will be happy to do it for you.
    Futhermore, this is nothing personal or anything, I just got kinda carried away.. but I contend they're an extremely divisive, dangerous movement.. and one of the biggest shackles on the anti Jewish movement.

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  19. Kyle was right (8 Dec. show with JF touching on CI) - why would anyone in their right mind want to worship the badass mofo that is in charge of the OT and join His™ exclusive club of losers? Cos that's what CI is.

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  20. Found it: Ass in the Lion's Skin (somewhat ironically, located on a CI site?)


    http://www.thechristianidentityforum.net/downloads/Jewish-Masque.pdf

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  21. "The Jews... have entrenched themselves within all the provisos under which a people can survive intact, or has been allowed to survive. Out of their own consciousness they have evolved a set of ideas in opposition to all natural conditions of living, one by one they have taken religion, culture, morality, history, and psychology, and converted them irreparably into a contradiction of their natural meaning.

    We meet with the same phenomenon elsewhere, but all disjointed, a mere copy, for the Christian church lacks all claim to originality as compared with the 'holy race'…

    Because of their capacity for distortion, the Jews are the most fateful people in human history. In the course of their operations they have hoodwinked mankind so much that, even to this day, the Christian can feel anti-Semitic without realizing that he himself is the logical consequence of Judaism.

    In my 'Genealogy of Morals', I give the first psychological explanation of the distinction between a noble morality and a morality of resentment; the latter being merely a negation of the former and this latter is the Jewish-Christian morality through and through!

    In order to be able to say no to life on the up-grade, to success, power, and beauty, and self-affirmation on earth, it was necessary for the instinct of resentment, or for the genius of resentment, to discover another world, one from which that affirmation of life could be regarded as evil and reprehensible.

    Psychologically considered, the Jews are a people very hard to suppress, who when they had to face impossible surroundings, deliberately selected the part of decadence, and made their choice with a profound worldly wisdom in order to preserve themselves intact. I do not mean that the Jews were overcome by decadence, but that they saw in it a method by which they could assert themselves against the world.

    The Jews are the opposite of decadent, they have simply been obliged to take on the part, so much so that with an incredible degree of histrionic genius, they have managed to place themselves in control of all decadent movements in order to make themselves stronger than the assertive forces of life.

    The kind of man who seeks power under Judaism or Christianity uses decadence as no more than a means to an end. This kind of fellow has a real interest in making people sick, and in upsetting the ideas of 'good' and 'evil' 'true' and 'false' in a way which is dangerous to life and a slander against this world in which we live...

    Here we are among Jews... the elevation of deceit in attitude and phrase to the status of an art - is not any accident due to the exceptional talents of any one individual. It is a racial matter. In the formulation of Christianity, the art of concocting holy lies, which is the essence of Jewishness, after many centuries of earnest apprenticeship and practice in Judea, has reached technical perfection...

    Little super-Jews, fit only for the madhouse, reversed all values to suit themselves... Paul, the Jew, the eternal and perfect Jew, Paul the genius, realized that, by means of the small sectarian Christian movement which had broken away from Judaism, a world conflagration could be kindled. He realized that, by means of 'God on the Cross' everything underhand, seditious, and a product of rebellious intrigues within the empire, might be welded together into one immense power. 'For salvation is of the Jews'."

    ~ from "The Anti-Christ" by Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900)

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  22. @S4M/IP December 8, 2012 2:22 PM
    I watched the video first part with interest but my lowly PC couldn't seem to get to later parts, pity the host can't put his stuff up also as simple .mp3.

    Anyway the first segment was interesting but 2 comments:

    1. when I referred to the Goths I was referring to a people who seem to have come into written evidence about 3,000 years earlier than the period you refer to. This is the stuff Waddell wrote about in the British Edda and I have since come across another book documenting the various names under which these people were known. It's out of copyright so I will probably put it up some time.

    2. the subject of King Arthur has been crawled over endlessly and theories abound, I'm told the expert on the
    genealogies of the early "Welsh" princely families was the late Peter Bartrum:

    http://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/handle/2160/4026

    Repressive anti-Welsh laws were certainly passed before the Acts of Union.

    However I don't agree with the assertion (if I understood it right) that Arthur's burial place was Oldbury or Athelstone in the English Midlands. Both names are of English not Welsh (Celtic) language origin and "Oldbury" has nothing to do with burials, "bury" meaning a burgh or borough - like Bury St Edmunds for instance. That looks like folk etymology at best and unchecked surmise at worst, which if so doesn't grow confidence in the remainder of the presentation. That said though, the rest of the first part looked plausible enough at first sight. But to reiterate, this all relates to a people and period much, much later than that Waddell was referring to in the book I referenced.

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