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curious, that Mike Sledge wasn't interviewed a/t his awesome new national protectionist plan
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in walls of words
your words are blind
you speak and you are dumb and blind
the word that is your god
is you who fall so low and fall so far
imitation of christ
JF comment @ Yeager's blog in her ADLaney show entry:
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[...] What I don’t get is Mike’s (and Carolyn’s?) total refusal to face the reality that the videos we were shown on teLIEvision of airplanes crashing into the WTC were totally fake. There’s just no other way around this guys, the videos are fake. There were no Arab hijackings, no plane crashes, and more than likely no genuine victims. 9/11 was a total PSYOP (just like the Holohoax!). There were even scripted actors in place to sell the official government story on what was ostensibly live news broadcasts that day. These facts have been overwhelmingly established at this point. Why Mike simply can’t admit he’s wrong about this and stop bashing people who expose media fakery is beyond me.
http://thewhitenetwork.com/2013/01/26/interview-with-mike-delaney-of-prothink/#comment-7775
Sorry JF, "No Planes @ WTC" is a disinfo gambit, and you keep running with it whole hog. It's intended to bait the 911TM into a "chase our tails" infighting ditch over irrelevant & exotic "HOW 911 was done" theories, while turning off any noobs.
JF's NP@WTC dogma was formerly my only bone with him; but his recent enamoration with CI, IE "Jewish-Supremacism for Wiggers", and his siding with ADLaney who kikejacked ZCF and solicits donations to himself there from visitors interested in ZCF's intellectual property. JF bases this anti-ZCF bias on the very jewey "religious persecution" (of CI wiggers) angle, and says CIs aren't causing any problems. Well maybe JF hasn't seen the bombardment of Mami's comments, & Spingola & Giuliani inboxes with CI spew about "muds" & "race-traitors" yada yada? Such persuasive diplomats for their fledgling "REAL-Chosenite Supremacism" joo-cult!
Sorry to see JF, a smart, polite & amicable guy, bite of these kosher poison-apples (NP@WTC & CI). And how did the "let's all lose the online anonymity" pitch near the end of this Fetcho show, jibe with JF's recent disclosure that he lost his job in Jan under suspicious post-JDF-terror circumstances?
http://www.john-friend.net/2013/03/a-note-to-readers.html
The "nose out" research pretty much shows the CGI nature of the "real planes" - personally I am quite suspicious of anyone selling the "gee - look up in the sky, mummy, it is a plane" theory.
ReplyDeleteWhat took out the telecommunications room (I worked as a consultant for a firm that had switches on the floor that was taken out) was external - but a Boeing 757.
What is being said here is a known but hidden fact - the hit on the 86th floor of the WTC was directly on the telecommunications hub for the East Coast - a classic act used during coup d'etat, which is what 9-11 was and remains to this day.
Please.
Jews and their intellectual violence often has its limits - which is why they wish to "combat violence" - so they can continue to use intellectual violence upon society.
Dennis- I can't decipher what to make of your comment re planes or "NP@WTC", ?? When you use "gee - look up in the sky, mummy, it is a plane" ridicule gambits, similar to the NP@WTC-club's "plane-huggers" disparagement of non-club members; it causes warning lights to flash for "experienced truthers" who instantly recognize the indirect ad-hom/shaming MO as that employed by our enemies... an unproductive approach indeed!
ReplyDeleteALawson did a fine job IMHO of putting to bed the NP@WTC campaign, and illuminating the pattern of disingenuousness of JFetzer who was one of the campaign's principal barkers. Lawson did a video as well as several articles (found on rense, startpage search without quotes: "lawson fetzer host:rense.com") debunking it. I want to give JF the benefit of the doubt as being a "useful idiot" (an unfortunate term coined appropriately by the joo-bolsheviks- I've temporarily played the "useful idiot" role in the past & surely the future, meaning an honest/sincere person who's been willfully deceived into activism in the interests of the deceivers) WRT JF's dogmatic promotion of NP@WTC-- with Fetzer I'm not so charitable.
Good show Fetch & John. Fetch, I listen to most of your shows based on the synopsis posted @ Mamis, so when there's only "synopsis pending" (and never seeming to materialize), I tend not to listen. ;)
Yeah - have been remiss on the show synopsis. Have to catch up.
ReplyDeleteThere appears to me to be a clear campaign by the plane-huggers to disavow any inquiry into any solution other than the official "plane" theory.
The firm I worked for lost two engineers and a month of data (telecom) when something took out the floor of General Telecom, the primary collocation telecom interconnect room for the Northeast.
Those who want to sell the plane theory either are deluded, have no clue, or are deliberately disingenuous and dishonest.
Something took out SPECIFICALLY the telecommunications network interconnect facility for the Northeast - a layer of intelligence that is clearly an inside set of knowledge - this was not a random commercial airline drifting into a commercial building in a Jewish fabricated storyline of a "terror attack".
ReplyDeleteI think building seven was SPECIFICALLY targeted also as no phantom plane hit it, and it was announced on TV that it had collapsed about 20 minuted before it actually did collapse.
Got a few names of those lost engineers Fetch? Are they on the list of 3,000 or so missing? Where the faces of those two missing engineers pasted on that govt bus Mike Delaney drove in a few small town parades?
Are you buying into the no-plane theory too Fetch? That seriously hurts your credibility. MILLIONS of people saw it happen.
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Below Is A Screengrab Of The Herzakhani Video Given To CNN
http://www.therealnewsonline.com/uploads/6/5/2/9/6529494/_9354114.jpg?889
How can any of this absurd, cartoonish, 100% fake nonsense be taken as real by literally BILLIONS of people ??
How About The Below Image Credited To Jennifer Spell?? Yet, another so-called 'amateur' video.
http://www.therealnewsonline.com/uploads/6/5/2/9/6529494/4393965_orig.png
The Plane is almost all the way in and still no hole in the tower??!!!!!
How much of a RETARD does a person have to be to still be a 9-11 plane-hugger after seeing just these 3 images never mind all the other mountains of evidence available ?
http://www.therealnewsonline.com/guest-james-fetzer-evidence.html
Just these 3 fake images are enough to throw out ALL the 'evidence' for the official fable of 9-11 in any proper and uncorrupted court of law:
falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus
False in one particular, false in everything.
This principle of Roman law is still respected and has been appropriated by other disciplines. The concept is that if a witness has been shown to lie in one particular respect in a case, he is not to be trusted in anything else he says. This is why it is important for attorneys to impeach opposing witnesses in court: it discredits the rest of their testimony. The object behind the principle is to reject questionable testimony (even if it might be true) before accepting falsehood into evidence.
The legal principles of interrogating witnesses have been drawn into the task of evaluating historical sources. Just as a witness in court can be impeached by being shown to have lied, an historical source likewise loses much of its authority if its author can be shown to have deliberately falsified something--how can we trust an author concerning fact X when we know him to have lied about fact Y? Such an author may corroborate something a better witness says, but has forfeited our trust where he speaks without corroboration.
So, too, a manuscript bearing copies of ancient works is called a witness: not to a crime, obviously, nor to a contract, nor to historical facts, but rather to an earlier version of its text. Many of the same principles have been drawn into this field as well. A manuscript which contains many errors or bad readings (for example, a simpler phrase replacing a more difficult one which the scribe did not understand, or frequent spelling blunders) cannot be trusted without corroboration from an independent manuscript (i.e., one which is neither its copy nor its descendent).
http://everything2.com/title/falsus+in+uno%252C+falsus+in+omnibus
911 AMATEUR part2 by Simon Shack - The video that proved years ago that the so-called plane-shaped hole in the buildings were drawn-in on video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjQmxS-DpyM
No-Planes theory is PROVEN guys, there are no IF's, AND's or BUTS about it. Just those 3 images are enough to throw out ALL THE 'EVIDENCE' for the official story wholsale IF you can bring it to a proper court of law. NOTHING ELSE is even necessary.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1061354149#post1061354149
i dont give a shit if planes existed or didnt exist trivial matters details to confuse nothing more its the JEWS thats all you need to know not zionist neo cons whatever just plane ole JEWS
ReplyDeleteIf there were no planes at WTC why was the USAF effectively stood down on 911?
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Adrian Salbuchi has said more than once that he knows people who were physically present on the day and saw the other tower hit. Yes, hearsay. Is he a liar too?
Circular tail-chasing on cause DOES deflect from focus on effect.
There were obviously no planes at the pentagon or pennsylvania. So why should we whole-heartedly regurgitate that there were planes in NY, considering witness testimonies that there were no planes, just bombs. Plus the impossibility of the low-altitude flight path and the ease with which video trickery can be executed.
ReplyDeleteGot a few names of those lost engineers Fetch? Are they on the list of 3,000 or so missing? Good question. Long time ago and the company has since closed...
ReplyDeleteThis was not a "no plane" show but yeah - enough of this Jewish centric trolling to try to sell the original story.
I am surprised there are people pushing the plane theory as if somehow it can or should be taken seriously.
These people probably believe that Jews are Chosen People and deserve to have their own planet where they can rule as tyrants for 1000 years...a Talmudic Reich.
If there were no planes at WTC why was the USAF effectively stood down on 911?
ReplyDeleteThe problem with this open ended statement is that the "planes" is linked to "Boeing 757's", which is totally absurd and long ago laughed out of intelligence and intelligent circles.
So now we are left with a more rational scenario - missiles fired from aircraft at the Pentagon - pretty much a given, a probable missile that took out the telecommunications room on the 86th floor.
Lots of reasons to stand down the air force when a coup d'etat was in progress.
Chasing down mythical Boeing 757's would not have been one of them.
There's a pretty simple way to get to the bottom of this. Just 'grab' either Silverstein/Cheney/Panetta/Rothchild etc, give them some good ol'US style waterboarding, and they'll sing like a canary.
ReplyDeleteI share Fetch's thought.
ReplyDeleteIt think he is spot on.
I also doubt a bit the planes theory altogether. I personally think cruise missile was eventually used for Pentagon.Why was this video footage of the petrol station next to Pentagon confiscated?
Being European, I don't know what happened other than European analysts immediately after 911 told, the most possible truth in Europe, "inside job'.
I think Fetch is right, 911,was a coup d#etat, and I believe the perpetrators stole the Gold while 911 was going on.
He who controls the gold, effectively controls the much of the world.
There's a pretty simple way to get to the bottom of this. Just 'grab' either Silverstein/Cheney/Panetta/Rothchild etc, give them some good ol'US style waterboarding, and they'll sing like a canary.
ReplyDeleteYeap. And they know it too....
I personally think cruise missile was eventually used for Pentagon.
ReplyDeletePerhaps - and these are serialized. A simple accounting (inventory) of the current available assets would inform us what if any are missing - something that every prudent business does as often as once a month.
ReplyDeletePlanes are also serialized. Several of the "planes used in the attack" performed fine for several years after the "event", verified by serial numbers. Sort of takes the wind out of the plane pushers, eh? Unless those are magic planes?
No need to check missile serial numbers. The controlled govt ain't gonna do it for ya, and they sure as hell ain't gonna let you do it.
TheFetch said...
ReplyDeletePerhaps - and these are serialized. A simple accounting (inventory) of the current available assets would inform us what if any are missing - something that every prudent business does as often as once a month.
Fetch, except the perpetrators used a russian made missile, it'd explain a certain silence from Russia.
The Russians have been in the know who did it. But they have kept silent until now. Why?
September Clues Busted
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I've spoken with people personally who saw something hit the towers.
Maybe it was a drone but the "video fakery" arguments are easily dismissable.
And if you were wondering why the Jews are attacking CI? Do you have any idea of their history of violent crime?
http://vault.fbi.gov/Christian%20Identity%20Movement%20/Christian%20Identity%20Movement%20Part%201%20of%201/view
http://www.religioustolerance.org/cr_ident.htm
http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=us_domestic_terrorism_tmln&haitian_elite_2021_organizations=us_domestic_terrorism_tml
Basically these idiots (or whatever they are) give the Jews carte blanche to call us all crazy neo-nazis ala "American History X" and "Romper Stomper".. yes they attack it but in doing so are slandering everyone who criticizes Jewry.. and it gives the Jews a key weapon against us. Most of the citations you get against whites by the SPLC and ADL are because of Chattin' Idonkity retards.
Agree with you. I saw a plane shaped object hit the 2nd WTC Tower thru a window in a Midtown Manhattan NYC high rise (about 6 miles away from the Twin Towers) with my naked eyes on that fateful 9-11-2001 morning.
Delete"As the planes used in the attack performed fine for several years after the event, verified by serial numbers" there ere are two possibilities:
1) The criminals used the remote-controlled, retired planes to hit the Twin Towers.
2) The criminals used plane-shaped missiles to hit the Towers.
Yes, the "video fakery" arguments can be easily dismissed.
Lugh you're spot on with the CI analysis. And drones were definetely used in NY. Missiles in PA and the Pentagon. The drones hitting the towers made movements just before impact that looked like someone was controlling it with an xbox controller. But regardless they were brought down with white phosphorus or thermite demolition charges. And arguing about how it was done doesnt get us any closer to executing the kikes that did it. Although if we all have different stories of how it went down it confuses newcomers from even accepting that it was an "inside job". But these people are probably worthless to our cause anyway.
ReplyDeletePlanes are also serialized. Several of the "planes used in the attack" performed fine for several years after the "event", verified by serial numbers. Sort of takes the wind out of the plane pushers, eh? Unless those are magic planes?
ReplyDeletePretty much.
Fetch, except the perpetrators used a russian made missile, it'd explain a certain silence from Russia.
The Russians have been in the know who did it. But they have kept silent until now. Why?
Great point and did not consider that...
Are you buying into the no-plane theory too Fetch? That seriously hurts your credibility. MILLIONS of people saw it happen.
Sure they did and I am not worried. If you are linking "planes" to "Boeing 757's", then I am humored at your "millions" statement...my credibility is solid and fine and is not going anywhere anytime soon.
I've spoken with people personally who saw something hit the towers.
Maybe it was a drone but the "video fakery" arguments are easily dismissable.
No one argues that something hit the towers externally. The floor that was taken out was the telecommunications interconnect facility on the 86th floor...
If you are selling Boeing 757's - not many buyers in the market for that at this stage.
And arguing about how it was done doesnt get us any closer to executing the kikes that did it
A primary motivator for the disinformation - waste energy and time and focus on a non issue...
I consider myself to be a sceptical truther, I have a science/music technology background and I can see the no planes theory has legs. Despite the Zakheim/System Planning Corp connection. I think planes took off, and landed after switching off transponders, and any passengers not 'in the know' were told it was part of the exercise going on that day. I do not see why being a no planes proponent should be a truther credibility dealbreaker.
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