Serbia wanted war. They did not try to stop the assasins. Black Hand was indeed with the Serbian government. The serbs have tried to lie that they warned or tried to stop the murderers. No. YThe whole Serbia was a toy of the international Banks and teh Freemasonry and also Russia was in the plot and the serbs did everything the russians told them to do.
I think Wilhelm II never would have attacked Russia with Enngland. Wilhelm II wanted a Company with Russia. But the Jews may have told the Russians otherwise.
And how can the Annexion of Bosnia and Herzegovina be so important? The Russian Minister promised (without permission) it to the Austrians. These Counties had been under the Austrian govern since 1878. Belonging to the modern Austrian Empire was good for the peoples in the Bosnia and Herzegovina. Little Serbia was angry, but without others it could have done nothing. The crisis of the 1908 has become only an excuse for the MS-historians to accuse Austria and Germany.
Austria rule was not good for the "peoples" of BiH. Serbs were the largest of the ethnic groups there back then, and they were treated the worst, while the Austrians used the Muslims against them.
Austria's own census had the BiH Serbs at over 40% of the population, while the Bosniaks were 10% less. I think it was the Austrians even who made up the term "Bosniaks" for the Muslims to make them feel entitled to the land and that it was more theirs than the Serbs', which it was not.
Furthermore, Austria wanted war and the Archduke stood in the way as he worried about Russia.
The Archduke was not mourned: his funeral was boycotted and even his relatives (his uncle, for example) made statements which made it sound they were glad of his death.
He was not given any protection during his tour, and the tour was timed for the Serbian holiday of Vidovdan.
Also, Austria was doing military maneuvers near the border with Serbia - that's often a preparation for a war action.
After the first several bumbling (mostly failed student teenage) would-be assassins didn't work, the Archdukes tour STILL wasn't cancelled and he wasn't given any extra protection.
Yet the Austrian police were on the would-be assassins who chickened out and ran away without doing anything like white on rice.
So they were likely being WATCHED carefully. I think Austrian Intelligence knew and wanted to see it carried out. It would "kill two birds with one stone". It would rid Austria of the disliked Archduke (and it was the top military leadership which disagreed with him the most) and give them an excuse to attack Serbia.
Austria's military was much larger and more prepared - Serbia didn't want a war with them, and Serbia was exhausted from the Balkan wars where they helped drive out the Turks.
Oh, and Austria (and other western nations) were angry that Serbia got rid of those oppressors.
They WANTED Serbs to be kept down.
Austria always made sure to support and beef up the Balkan Muslims where the Ottomans had already receded.
Austria even brought in Albanians into the Sandzak (and most of those Albanians assimilated into being/joining the Slavic Muslims, now termed "Bosniaks").
Austria did that to keep thorns in Serbia's side.
Austria also created "Albania" to block Serbia's access to the sea.
Austria had long wanted to destroy Serbia and was itching for a war for many years.
And German wanted to attack a rising Russia before it got to strong.
Russia was surging.
"I have read the minutes of the Austrian cabinet meeting which decided on the ultimatum and it is quite obvious that they intended it to be unacceptable to any country. In fact, Austria had been spoiling for a fight with upstart Serbia for ten years. The Imperial German government had, in effect, given Austria a”blank cheque” of support for dealing with Serbia which would bring Russia into the war. It is often forgotten that, at the time, the Russian economy was booming rather like China has done recently and the German General Staff thought it would be easier to defeat Russia sooner rather than later, when it would have completed its railway system and modernised its infrastructure." Edward Spalton
Germany could have attack soon 1905 or 1908. Nobody could have provide any proper resistance. If She wanted war before Russia was too strong, why did she not start war then?
I think You are a putinist or a Serb who do'nt want to be honest. So I don't bother any more allthough everything You sadi could be refuted
Of course Austria's cabinet wanted war with Serbia after all the crimes of the Serbs through the Years. The Archduke had been the greatest hindernis for a War. The Warmongers were not in power. Hötzendorf would have wanted the War but he had not the power. The war would have been the fault of the Serbs in any case soon in 1908.
1914 Wilhelm II prevented the destroying of the Serbia and forced Austria to promise to only occupy Belgrad for a limited time. That was not nough for the real warmongers in Briain, France and Russia
The Leaders of Serbia were ultra-nationalists and chauvinists. PM Pasic said after the War 1912 that the next target would be Austria. The banks and the Russians told the Leaders what to do and the people were drawn into a psychosis. The paramilitary troops and the soldiers were made to chauvinists. They were especially violent towards the Muslims. The Leader of the Secret Police said 1917 that he planned the Murder of the Archduke with the Russian Military-Attachea. And the terrorist-groups in Bosnia. The money came from Russland and to her from the Rothschilds. The Leaders of Serbia were freemasons. They and the Leaders of Russia were behind the Murder.
Do you deny that a jew killed not only the leader of Austria, the Archduke, but also his wife, in cold blood, right out in the open, for all the world to see?
All the peripheral points you try to make pale in comparison to a deliberate, protected, horrendous MURDER of a visiting head of state - no?
The many sub currents swirling around have to be set aside when blatant MURDER is committed and *sanctioned* by authorities that should be in charge and should provide protection for visiting dignitaries.
Austrian war with Serbia had to follow this act - so, why not explore, in the same depth and with the same vigor of analysis, the sentiment, the organizations, and the criminal actors themselves, behind this overt, and clearly UNACCEPTABLE, murder of Ferdinand AND HIS WIFE?
Your posts stinks of Serbian excuses for this murder, and for Serbian refusal to arrest AND prosecute, the murderer and other culpable supporting actors.
The writer has made a big mistake:
ReplyDeleteSerbia wanted war. They did not try to stop the assasins. Black Hand was indeed with the Serbian government. The serbs have tried to lie that they warned or tried to stop the murderers. No. YThe whole Serbia was a toy of the international Banks and teh Freemasonry and also Russia was in the plot and the serbs did everything the russians told them to do.
-Friedrich Würthle: ie Spur führt nach Sarajevo
-Helmut Roewer: Kill the Huns - Tötet die Hunnen
- Doherty & McGregor: Hidden History
And many others.
I think Wilhelm II never would have attacked Russia with Enngland. Wilhelm II wanted a Company with Russia. But the Jews may have told the Russians otherwise.
ReplyDeleteAnd how can the Annexion of Bosnia and Herzegovina be so important? The Russian Minister promised (without permission) it to the Austrians. These Counties had been under the Austrian govern since 1878. Belonging to the modern Austrian Empire was good for the peoples in the Bosnia and Herzegovina. Little Serbia was angry, but without others it could have done nothing. The crisis of the 1908 has become only an excuse for the MS-historians to accuse Austria and Germany.
ReplyDeleteDie Spur führt also nach Belgrad...not to Sarajevo
ReplyDeleteAustria rule was not good for the "peoples" of BiH.
ReplyDeleteSerbs were the largest of the ethnic groups there back then, and they were treated the worst, while the Austrians used the Muslims against them.
Austria's own census had the BiH Serbs at over 40% of the population, while the Bosniaks were 10% less.
I think it was the Austrians even who made up the term "Bosniaks" for the Muslims to make them feel entitled to the land and that it was more theirs than the Serbs', which it was not.
Furthermore, Austria wanted war and the Archduke stood in the way as he worried about Russia.
The Archduke was not mourned: his funeral was boycotted and even his relatives (his uncle, for example) made statements which made it sound they were glad of his death.
He was not given any protection during his tour, and the tour was timed for the Serbian holiday of Vidovdan.
Also, Austria was doing military maneuvers near the border with Serbia - that's often a preparation for a war action.
After the first several bumbling (mostly failed student teenage) would-be assassins didn't work, the Archdukes tour STILL wasn't cancelled and he wasn't given any extra protection.
Yet the Austrian police were on the would-be assassins who chickened out and ran away without doing anything like white on rice.
So they were likely being WATCHED carefully.
I think Austrian Intelligence knew and wanted to see it carried out. It would "kill two birds with one stone".
It would rid Austria of the disliked Archduke (and it was the top military leadership which disagreed with him the most) and give them an excuse to attack Serbia.
Austria's military was much larger and more prepared - Serbia didn't want a war with them, and Serbia was exhausted from the Balkan wars where they helped drive out the Turks.
Oh, and Austria (and other western nations) were angry that Serbia got rid of those oppressors.
They WANTED Serbs to be kept down.
Austria always made sure to support and beef up the Balkan Muslims where the Ottomans had already receded.
Austria even brought in Albanians into the Sandzak (and most of those Albanians assimilated into being/joining the Slavic Muslims, now termed "Bosniaks").
Austria did that to keep thorns in Serbia's side.
Austria also created "Albania" to block Serbia's access to the sea.
Austria had long wanted to destroy Serbia and was itching for a war for many years.
And German wanted to attack a rising Russia before it got to strong.
Russia was surging.
"I have read the minutes of the Austrian cabinet meeting which decided on the ultimatum and it is quite obvious that they intended it to be unacceptable to any country. In fact, Austria had been spoiling for a fight with upstart Serbia for ten years.
The Imperial German government had, in effect, given Austria a”blank cheque” of support for dealing with Serbia which would bring Russia into the war.
It is often forgotten that, at the time, the Russian economy was booming rather like China has done recently and the German General Staff thought it would be easier to defeat Russia sooner rather than later, when it would have completed its railway system and modernised its infrastructure." Edward Spalton
Germany could have attack soon 1905 or 1908. Nobody could have provide any proper resistance. If She wanted war before Russia was too strong, why did she not start war then?
ReplyDeleteI think You are a putinist or a Serb who do'nt want to be honest. So I don't bother any more allthough everything You sadi could be refuted
Of course Austria's cabinet wanted war with Serbia after all the crimes of the Serbs through the Years. The Archduke had been the greatest hindernis for a War. The Warmongers were not in power. Hötzendorf would have wanted the War but he had not the power. The war would have been the fault of the Serbs in any case soon in 1908.
ReplyDelete1914 Wilhelm II prevented the destroying of the Serbia and forced Austria to promise to only occupy Belgrad for a limited time. That was not nough for the real warmongers in Briain, France and Russia
The Leaders of Serbia were ultra-nationalists and chauvinists. PM Pasic said after the War 1912 that the next target would be Austria. The banks and the Russians told the Leaders what to do and the people were drawn into a psychosis. The paramilitary troops and the soldiers were made to chauvinists. They were especially violent towards the Muslims. The Leader of the Secret Police said 1917 that he planned the Murder of the Archduke with the Russian Military-Attachea. And the terrorist-groups in Bosnia. The money came from Russland and to her from the Rothschilds. The Leaders of Serbia were freemasons. They and the Leaders of Russia were behind the Murder.
ReplyDeleteTo James:
ReplyDeleteDo you deny that a jew killed not only the leader of Austria, the Archduke, but also his wife, in cold blood, right out in the open, for all the world to see?
All the peripheral points you try to make pale in comparison to a deliberate, protected, horrendous MURDER of a visiting head of state - no?
The many sub currents swirling around have to be set aside when blatant MURDER is committed and *sanctioned* by authorities that should be in charge and should provide protection for visiting dignitaries.
Austrian war with Serbia had to follow this act - so, why not explore, in the same depth and with the same vigor of analysis, the sentiment, the organizations, and the criminal actors themselves, behind this overt, and clearly UNACCEPTABLE, murder of Ferdinand AND HIS WIFE?
Your posts stinks of Serbian excuses for this murder, and for Serbian refusal to arrest AND prosecute, the murderer and other culpable supporting actors.