Delaney and Scott, whom I do not know at all, say that if they cover the "no planes" debate at all with John Friend or anyone, they want to do it right.
Well, if they want to do it right they will not bother themselves with responding to "Simon Shack" and September Clues. BTW, that guy is not the originator of the no planes idea. If Delaney and Scott want to really do a valid discussion of no planes they will read the writings of Dr. Morgan Reynolds at NoMoreGames.net and Dr. James Fetzer at VeteransToday.com who have both covered this subject fully and intelligently.
I always thought Shack's famous video "September Clues" was very hard to follow. I am a teacher at heart and I know I could explain this no planes idea much more clearly that Shack did. The video moves too fast and the music is distracting and the various repeating of fuzzy video clips is NOT an honest explication of the idea. There is a whole package of ideas that the Shackters push and only some of them have real validity and promise, but for those, they do not bother to present the information in an objective intelligent manner.
I think no planes is true and it sheds a bright light on all 9-11 truth efforts. I would remind everyone that the 9-11 truth movement was co-opted and taken over by the Dr. Steven Jones and Richard Gage gang who are fading out of the picture now to be replaced by their latest scam -- Rethink911.org. The Jones/Gage gang always insisted on holding on to the planes and hijackers and official story meme. They only reluctantly, after they could not longer forestall it, started talking about Building 7 and "controlled demolition", and they are wrapping up that new scam in tearful 9-11 "victim" relatives' testimony. I do agree with the Shackters that many of the approximate 3000 victims are in fact vicsims but no one has bothered to present that vicsim information in an objective intelligent manner. Also, since there are no planes, there are no plane passenger victims. Read "Planes without Passengers" book by Nick Dean, latest edition.
Simon Shack is definitely NOT the person's ideas you want to argue against if you want to do an honest argument against no planes. If you choose that path, you are just biting the rotten bait and participating in another Hegelian meaningless trap.
Let's drop the "how" and motivate others to focus on the "who". If we ignore those who are always preaching "how".........maybe eventually they lose interest and then those who are still interested will be forced to deal with the "who".
Always the "how".......I'm sick of it.
Fetzer hosts a conference last weekend to discuss the JFK assassination. For fucks sake, that was over 50 years ago and still no arrests and no one held accountable. If Fetzer et al would have their way, we will still be discussing "how" the towers fell 50 fucking years from today!
I think 9-11 theories died the minute the no planer, no brainers entered the tooth movement. The minute you try to explain that no plane bullshit to a neophyte they automatically see you in a tin foil hat.
Only a joo could come up with something so ridiculous.
Sounds exactly like a classic old-school troofah slogan to me. I totally agree with the above 2 posters. All that "how" craps has gone on WAAAAAAAAAY too long. Fuck JFK, fuck no-planes, ad infinitum... ya-a-a-a-a-awn... more than enough money's been made selling waste-of-time volumes by get-rich-quick "experts"... there's only ONE TRUTH everyone really needs to know NOW...
Dr. Fetzer is the only researcher who, early on, started focusing on the who, but I realize that none of you have studied or followed 9-11 research at all. Dr. Fetzer has more and more pointed to the "Zionist" and Mossad involvement in 9-11. He also has focused on the Zionists and the Mossad and the "who" in relation to JFK assassination.
It is valuable to keep on investigating all of these criminal actions of our government and shed more and more light on ALL aspects of the event. Many revelations about the "how" show much more clearly "who" could have and "who" could not have done it.
No planes is correct so I see that all anyone cares about is repeating the mantra "Itzda Joos."
I totally disagree with all except myself who have posted here and am most disappointed that no one wants to employ their brain and reasoning capacity in the continued examination of all these events. They are valuable because more and more light is shed on the who, even if they got away with it and there will be no justice.
The more we work to prove facts about these events, the less likely they are to perpetrate the next false flag event.
If anyone wants to prove that the Jews did it, they had better pursue this via the path of reason.
The people over the years who have always squelched the truth of no planes are the very people who will not hear a word about the Jews being involved.
"....Dr. Fetzer has more and more pointed to the "Zionist" and Mossad involvement in 9-11. He also has focused on the Zionists and the Mossad and the "who" in relation to JFK assassination....."
Go to www.john-friend.net
Download John's interview with Fetzer just a week or so ago. Fetzer actually gets mad when John suggests Israel was a player in JFK.
John's forum blew up and gave Fetzer much shit.
Now all of a sudden Fetzer is writing pieces implying Israel had something to do with JFK. Why? We are forcing him to.
"....I totally disagree with all except myself who have posted here and am most disappointed that no one wants to employ their brain and reasoning capacity...."
Jeannon....thanks for the laugh. Enjoy your club of 1.
Everybody knows that the jews did it. Of course everybody should speak it out loud. But I can see no reason that we should not discuss how they did it.
Robertsw and Delaney are weird guys. They are accusing everybody for being a jew or a shill or stupid and they f.e. believe in the Moonlandings.
In this book, “Masters of Deception: Zionism, 9/11 and the War on Terror Hoax,” writer Zander C. Fuerza documents a Zionist conspiracy behind the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks in the United States. Collecting the most potent pieces of evidence available, the author forms a cohesive narrative demonstrating that the Israeli Mossad, with the assistance of Zionist assets in the American government, conspired to execute the 9/11 attacks as a false-flag event designed to initiate the devilish neocon dream of a “Clash of Civilizations” between the Western world and the Islamic world, for the benefit of Israel and Zionism.
Tell you what I'm also sick to fucking death of hearing - "Zionist". People using this term KNOW what we already know and are only using this word because they are either too scared to say the word "JEW" or because they're working for the "JEW".
John Kaminski actually says it best as he did on Dana's last show - anyone NOT willing to use the word JEW today is immediately suspect. I agree.
And that's why compromised cowards like Alex Jone$ should be hung from a rope in my opinion for trason itzda joos. He states that people who expose jews as having a low intellect.
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Delaney and Scott, whom I do not know at all, say that if they cover the "no planes" debate at all with John Friend or anyone, they want to do it right.
Well, if they want to do it right they will not bother themselves with responding to "Simon Shack" and September Clues. BTW, that guy is not the originator of the no planes idea. If Delaney and Scott want to really do a valid discussion of no planes they will read the writings of Dr. Morgan Reynolds at NoMoreGames.net and Dr. James Fetzer at VeteransToday.com who have both covered this subject fully and intelligently.
I always thought Shack's famous video "September Clues" was very hard to follow. I am a teacher at heart and I know I could explain this no planes idea much more clearly that Shack did. The video moves too fast and the music is distracting and the various repeating of fuzzy video clips is NOT an honest explication of the idea. There is a whole package of ideas that the Shackters push and only some of them have real validity and promise, but for those, they do not bother to present the information in an objective intelligent manner.
I think no planes is true and it sheds a bright light on all 9-11 truth efforts. I would remind everyone that the 9-11 truth movement was co-opted and taken over by the Dr. Steven Jones and Richard Gage gang who are fading out of the picture now to be replaced by their latest scam -- Rethink911.org. The Jones/Gage gang always insisted on holding on to the planes and hijackers and official story meme. They only reluctantly, after they could not longer forestall it, started talking about Building 7 and "controlled demolition", and they are wrapping up that new scam in tearful 9-11 "victim" relatives' testimony. I do agree with the Shackters that many of the approximate 3000 victims are in fact vicsims but no one has bothered to present that vicsim information in an objective intelligent manner. Also, since there are no planes, there are no plane passenger victims. Read "Planes without Passengers" book by Nick Dean, latest edition.
Simon Shack is definitely NOT the person's ideas you want to argue against if you want to do an honest argument against no planes. If you choose that path, you are just biting the rotten bait and participating in another Hegelian meaningless trap.
Seek the truth.
Let's drop the "how" and motivate others to focus on the "who". If we ignore those who are always preaching "how".........maybe eventually they lose interest and then those who are still interested will be forced to deal with the "who".
Always the "how".......I'm sick of it.
Fetzer hosts a conference last weekend to discuss the JFK assassination. For fucks sake, that was over 50 years ago and still no arrests and no one held accountable. If Fetzer et al would have their way, we will still be discussing "how" the towers fell 50 fucking years from today!
Who - Who - Who.
I think 9-11 theories died the minute the no planer, no brainers entered the tooth movement. The minute you try to explain that no plane bullshit to a neophyte they automatically see you in a tin foil hat.
Only a joo could come up with something so ridiculous.
"Seek the truth."
Sounds exactly like a classic old-school troofah slogan to me. I totally agree with the above 2 posters. All that "how" craps has gone on WAAAAAAAAAY too long. Fuck JFK, fuck no-planes, ad infinitum... ya-a-a-a-a-awn... more than enough money's been made selling waste-of-time volumes by get-rich-quick "experts"... there's only ONE TRUTH everyone really needs to know NOW...
ITZDA FUCKING JOOS!!!
Exactly Itzda Joos. Why are people trying to revive Hitler and promote ridiculous no planer theories.
Both are practically impossible to 'sell' Stick to the now; jews are practically giving you the rope!
Dr. Fetzer is the only researcher who, early on, started focusing on the who, but I realize that none of you have studied or followed 9-11 research at all. Dr. Fetzer has more and more pointed to the "Zionist" and Mossad involvement in 9-11. He also has focused on the Zionists and the Mossad and the "who" in relation to JFK assassination.
It is valuable to keep on investigating all of these criminal actions of our government and shed more and more light on ALL aspects of the event. Many revelations about the "how" show much more clearly "who" could have and "who" could not have done it.
No planes is correct so I see that all anyone cares about is repeating the mantra "Itzda Joos."
I totally disagree with all except myself who have posted here and am most disappointed that no one wants to employ their brain and reasoning capacity in the continued examination of all these events. They are valuable because more and more light is shed on the who, even if they got away with it and there will be no justice.
The more we work to prove facts about these events, the less likely they are to perpetrate the next false flag event.
If anyone wants to prove that the Jews did it, they had better pursue this via the path of reason.
The people over the years who have always squelched the truth of no planes are the very people who will not hear a word about the Jews being involved.
Seek the truth.
"....Dr. Fetzer has more and more pointed to the "Zionist" and Mossad involvement in 9-11. He also has focused on the Zionists and the Mossad and the "who" in relation to JFK assassination....."
Go to www.john-friend.net
Download John's interview with Fetzer just a week or so ago. Fetzer actually gets mad when John suggests Israel was a player in JFK.
John's forum blew up and gave Fetzer much shit.
Now all of a sudden Fetzer is writing pieces implying Israel had something to do with JFK. Why? We are forcing him to.
"....I totally disagree with all except myself who have posted here and am most disappointed that no one wants to employ their brain and reasoning capacity...."
Jeannon....thanks for the laugh. Enjoy your club of 1.
Everybody knows that the jews did it. Of course everybody should speak it out loud. But I can see no reason that we should not discuss how they did it.
Robertsw and Delaney are weird guys. They are accusing everybody for being a jew or a shill or stupid and they f.e. believe in the Moonlandings.
WHO:
http://mastersofdeception.wordpress.com/
In this book, “Masters of Deception: Zionism, 9/11 and the War on Terror Hoax,” writer Zander C. Fuerza documents a Zionist conspiracy behind the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks in the United States. Collecting the most potent pieces of evidence available, the author forms a cohesive narrative demonstrating that the Israeli Mossad, with the assistance of Zionist assets in the American government, conspired to execute the 9/11 attacks as a false-flag event designed to initiate the devilish neocon dream of a “Clash of Civilizations” between the Western world and the Islamic world, for the benefit of Israel and Zionism.
Tell you what I'm also sick to fucking death of hearing - "Zionist". People using this term KNOW what we already know and are only using this word because they are either too scared to say the word "JEW" or because they're working for the "JEW".
John Kaminski actually says it best as he did on Dana's last show - anyone NOT willing to use the word JEW today is immediately suspect. I agree.
And that's why compromised cowards like Alex Jone$ should be hung from a rope in my opinion for trason itzda joos. He states that people who expose jews as having a low intellect.
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