James Henry Fetzer (born December 6, 1940) is a philosopher of science and conspiracy theorist. Since the late 1970s, Fetzer has worked on assessing and clarifying the forms and foundations of scientific explanation, probability in science, philosophy of mind, and philosophy of cognitive science, especially artificial intelligence and computer science.
Today: Flat Earth special with Joe Olson
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Wow, check the hysteria in the Bitchute comments. It's like Jim and Joel burned the Flat Erf Holy Book.
Hi Panzerfaust....i saw the rabid flat tards in mass at bitchute. Wow lol Spent lots of my day at rev radio battling a flat tard. From my worldly experiences and from actually watching many of their vdos...I have come to the conclusion that they cannot show any proof about their claims of the earth being flat. Not one !!! So i really think i am not the person to challenge about this because of my experiences. Personal observations!I live in the middle of the Pacific Ocean...2400 mile from other land masses. I live on Maui, HI and we have a 10,000+ ft mountain as our high point. Since about 1970, in Florida, i got into watching sunrises/sunsets and moonrises and sunsets, especially over ocean waters.. Came to Hawaii in 1975 and expanded this sky watching for the last 48 years. Off shore in the west I have 3 islands that act as fixed focal points. Unbelievable views. Lucky me. Due to this nonsense, i had to actually try learning the science. And i have. So try looking into what a "nautical mile"is,which is 6076 ft and why it is used instead of the "standard mile" which is 5,280 ft in ocean navigation. It is the compensation for the earth's curvature. Will be similar to what 'land surveyors' use. A definition:Historically it was defined as the meridian arc length corresponding to one minute (160 of a degree) of latitude. Today the international nautical mile is defined as exactly 1,852 meters (6,076 ft; 1.151 mi) so the formula to adapt to the earth's curvature is as simple as 5280 ft (one standard mile) x 1.51 = 6072 ft (one nautical mile) sorry flat earth retards...bring it on prove that formula wrong Cannot believe wasting this time hard for me to type lol and all this spinning...get dizzy...1 degree = 4 mins 15 degrees = 60 mins (1 hr) 24 hr x 15 degrees = 360 degrees... a circle ONE ROTATION = ONE DAY Not concerned about NASA or what ever you want to complicate things with.BTW...that was a great meme you posted about mixing all the conspiracies and turning people off...perfect i spread it along too. Take care
I believe there is no debate possible with a flat earth believer...like trying to mix oil and water. It seems like flat earthers believe in their religious fundamental cosmology beliefs and that does not mix well with Astrophysics and Astronomy proven scientific information at all. Very different languages! Might be best for me to just disengage. I am blessed with a 360 view of the horizon, over water, and plenty clouds, at various elevations, to change colors depending on things setting or rising. And a 10'K tall mountain as a back drop to watch the sun line/shadow slowly creep up the mountain...wonder how many flat earth sailors there are in the world ? It is easy for me to see,,,but guess others are just stuck pressing buttons and watching what someone else sees or tells them on the internet about their own natural world.
Jim omitted Eratosthenes, the head librarian of the Library of Alexandria, calculated Earth's shape and circumference in the 3rd century BC.
"In 240 BCE, he observed that at noon on the Summer Solstice in Alexandria, the Sun was directly overhead. He knew that in Aswan, about 800 kilometers to the south, the Sun would be at an angle of 7.2 degrees from vertical at the same time...By measuring the angle of the Sun’s rays at both locations and using some simple geometry, Eratosthenes was able to calculate that the Earth had a circumference of about 28,735 miles.
This was remarkably close to the modern value of 24,850 miles. Eratosthenes’ discovery that the Earth is spherical helped to lay the foundation for modern astronomy and geography. It also allowed for more accurate navigation at sea, which proved essential for the growth of global trade and exploration."
https://replogleglobes.com/blog/the-shape-of-the-earth-who-discovered-the-fact-that-the-earth-is-spherical/
Remember, some years ago, Mami's was thoroughly infested with Flat-Earf Tardation. I think even some of the admins were infected and the comments were full of the idiocy. It was so clearly a psy-op yet otherwise intelligent-seeming people were take in.
Some of them are very intelligent people but at the end of the day, the earth being flat or not does not change a damn thing in relation to the problems that we are facing.
It's called poisoning the well.
Thank you captain obvious.
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51+pAEvsY2L._AC_SL1500_.jpg
5280 ft x 1.51 = 6072 ft
well THAT maths "proves" the "moon landings" then ;-)
I caught that too, he meant 1.15. Typical Boomer onset dementia.
Why the snarky comment? Actual question.
The retards abound hehe Talking about the curvature of the earth did i say anything about moon landings Albert? Why do you even bring that up ??? Fuck you Eric little pussy boy...can only flail and insult Try to prove the "nautical mile" wrong.... wanker!!! I am assuming you can do the math lol "C'mon man" Why are the measurements different for the surface of the ocean, on a ship (nautical miles)than if you were flying on a plane (standard miles) ??? Say it...say it . Boomers probably had to wipe your ass and care for you at one time, punk ass!!! What do you see when you look up...DO YOU EVER LOOK UP ???? I doubt it ....just another "cult" follower I think your religious fundamental cosmology beliefs have to be defended at all costs, or you are just plain stupid. I mean we are talking about indefensible ideas...flat earth??? in the real world ...good luck with any other points /ideas you have to convey to someone concerning real issues.
Almost forgot ...check this out https://apps.apple.com/us/app/earth-curvature-calculator/id1441050109
This app is an accurate offline calculator for determining the horizon distance and obscured drop behind the earths curvature, which can be used to identify whether an object or land mass should be visible over a set distance from the users location and height.
Simple search for "earth curve calculators" will bring up plenty of examples. Two: https://www.facebook.com/earthcurvecalculator/ https://scotforshaw.blogspot.com/p/earth-curve-calculator.html?fbclid=IwAR0lOawgiz9qHoykWAY5OsIr4wZJROY4TtajJrqbun2h8F3jNijC22vUEHc Give it up flat earthers Wasting time and causing division. There are plenty of elementary school level videos that are teaching guides, for little kid teachers, for hands on explanations of how it all works. You might want to brush up on the basics...just a suggestion, based on your showing of how knowledgeable you are concerning your natural world.
OK, since some of the Above are soooo "con-vinced" ......
You're out on a boat surrounded-by WATER mile after mile after Mile .....
Can you "SEE" the "curvature"?
;-)
How the hell are we supposed to see the curvature from a boat at see? ROFL
So sorry for the math mistake...it should be 5,280 feet X 1.15(1) ft to derive the "nautical mile" distance of 6072 feet But i also now remember that name "eric paul" I remember you were into personal attacks on Merbaily some time back....she sort of went away after that....yeah you have a good track record in personal relations here. So prove that simple formula that is in use today is wrong
"over horizon radar" look it up...see how the military does it DUH !!!!
you can see it from weather sats that are like 22,000 mile high orbits with cameras...but FE do not believe in Sats so how can we converse together ????
you can't prove ONE...(1) flat earth fact...go try it , without changing the facts/parameters that exist
Nesomania - who are you over at Rev Radio?
It was sort-of a "Trick"-Question:
You see: WATER is ALWAYS Flat ...
and hence Especially Surrounded-by WATER ...
When one Looks-around: 360° ... it is Perfectly-FLAT ...
(And, actually the "Horizon" is at MIDDLE-Height, because of Perspective-effect)
Yet Lots of "Globe-Tards" CLAIM: that from-the beach-SHORE:
THEY can "SEE" the Ocean "CURVATURE" !!! ;-)
Also, by the way EVEN from the TOP of a VERY-High: Island-Mountain ...
The Ocean will STILL be: 360° around Perfectly-FLAT ..... and, also At-MIDDLE-Vision HEIGHT !!! :-o
From a Balloon at 20-40,000 Feet .... the "Globe-Tards" "THINK" that one will BEGIN: to LOOK-DOWN: at the Encircling-"Horizon" .......
But, NO ... it is STILL at MIDDLE-Level-Vision .....
Because THAT is the nature of Perspective .... (On the FLAT-Earth!)
..... Whereas on-a-"BALL" ... on Would indeed "Expect" to SART to LOOK-DOWN: on the Surrounding-"Horizon" as one More + More LEAVES ("Going" towards the Moon etc!)
But, no .... THAT NEVER actually HAPPENS .... even from Really REALLY High-UP: Balloons etc! :-o
But, anyway ........ as "Globe-Tards" actually "THINK": that at the Equator Folks are "Spinning" at 1,000+ miles per Hour (which is actually Really REALLY FAST !!! :-o Sound Travels at 700mph!)
The Subtler-Understandings ... are pretty-well WASTED on THEM! ;-)
"WHY" does it "Make a Difference' ...... well, Dhuh!
--> Because we are-NOT: Standing upon a "Spinning"-Ball .... and there IS NO: Descernable "curvature" ......
and, yes, by the way:
No-one WENT to the "Moon" (especially with Rockets!)
And there ARE NO: Nuclear-Bombs Either !!! .... Dhuh !!!
--> Yes, ALL of that $Billions ..... WENT into ((("someones'"))) (((pockets))) .....
;-)
But, WHAT does it "Matter" ...... says the "Globe-Tard" .... "Fake-&-Gay"-"Simp"! :-o
;-)
Example of FE fraud
https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1689311941243767.jpg
I believe in the cube earth theory.
The sun is flat.
I predict the flat jew theory will gain popularity over the next year or so.
@Nesomaniac, who is this "eric paul" you refer to?
So do flat earthers believe in “google earth”
The site I use to know sun/moon rises/sets times is https://www.timeanddate.com You will need to enter your zip code to find your local data Then from the top menu, choose sun and moon…to see the times and locations in the sky. For my location it will look like this , as an example, https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/usa/wailuku This gives real time info on “Sunrise/Sunset times”, “Day length” and differentials between the days,” Astronomical Twilight” start and end, “Nautical Twilight “start and end, “Civil Twilight” start and end and “Solar Noon “noted as both time and degrees and in distance from the sun. Takes some time to learn how this works, but not to hard. Interesting how the light is characterized in those categories. But from a personal experience of looking/watching this is exactly the way it is outside. The exact spot the sun will appear, or set, from this chart, and will move more east or west depending on the seasons …the earth’s tilt (equinoxes and solstices) And from repetition of following this , IT REALLY DOES THIS Just how it is recorded , and charted, and can easily be seen with the naked eye. EVERY DAY And as a reminder, this can be measured as approx 1 degree of movement = 4 mins of time it took the earth to rotate, which is 15 degrees every hour…and if you take 15 degrees x 24 hours = 360 degrees. We went completely around and came back to where we started from ( ever slight daily change to accommodate season changes) One Day = one “revolution” of earth….repeat it approx 365 days and happy birthday…just “revolved” around the sun,once,(365 revolutions of earth as it goes around the sun= one yearly revolving of earth around the sun) which just took a year to do. So, I see no evident signs of the sun “going around” as the FEers want you to believe LOL Cannot hide that kind of light without it being blocked out by a large physical object…like Earth. Just not going to happen. Just have to go watch and see for yourself and see what you think . Oh,and as an indoor grower of plants with multiple light cycles (veg vs flower) in the same area…lots of experience trying and most difficult to do 100% to prevent light contamination during dark cycles. THE SUN DOES NOT GO AROUND..the perimeter of the “flat earth” like some want you to believe.
It is so easy now to use the time and date info and with all the web cams and travel vloggers out there promoting this or that and google earth maps, one can see many thing in real time now…no excuses to be ignorant Does GPS ring a bell ? Could even do live shadow experiments….of the sun from different places…if you want to waste more time….cause honestly…flat earthers will not believe anything you present to them, from my experience.
Scorpio should have made that prediction back in 2013. LOL
@ Nesomania
You are wasting your time and energy.
i am nesomania at RR was plant manager b4..we have chatted. Open challange to any flat earther...PROVE one point.that the earth is flat...no curvature. Prove it...no debunking round earth...but SHOW me your PROOF of flatness. Bet you can't Anyone want to $$$$ bet ??? Can donate the $$$ to Mamis/Zap No one has taken me up at RR, just same flat retards repeating their nonsense.
Albert...thank you for proving my point and you can go fuck off too !!! Oh poooor ERIK Paul so sorry that was so important to you lol What a waste of my time Lets bet .$$$..c'mon man
IT SHOULD BE SO EASY FOR YOU, just have to prove the "nautical Mile " doesn't exist Why Can't you do that ???? just can throw insults and offer more flat tard nonsense you guys are pathetic See when i go read chats/comments sections at other sites and i see folks will compare people to "flat earthers" who do not follow what they are pushing...so cause i may be against vaccines...now i might be compared to a flat earther. THAT is the problem...the PSYOP To bad you guys cannot see that https://ibb.co/jJjyn5n
Exactly and this is the answer to Zap on why the knife must be pushed to the hilt on flat erf feelings on part of inner circle adherents be damned. It discredits by association those questioning the more pressing issues.
This Nesomaniac character apparently is confusing me with someone else with a similar name.
It's difficult to follow his demented ranting but he seems to be implying that I'm a Flat Earf-Tard, which is absurd. Also, that I made personal attacks on someone called Merbaily of whom I know nothing.
Since I only post comments on Mami's, there would have to be a record of it here. Btw, I have occasionally commented on BB's chat.
"You see: WATER is ALWAYS Flat ..."
Poor autistic Albert! I guess he's never seen a raindrop or seen water bead up on a waxed car. Then there're the demonstrations of blobs of water forming perfect spheres in Earth orbit.
And if AL doesn't believe in Earth orbit, the same thing happens aboard the "Vomit Comet"...unless, of course, he's a C-135 denier!!
Water goes flat due to gravity. These concepts are beyond Pau..I mean Albert.
21stCenturyWire had been a marathon of germ theory denial quack shows all month long. I suspect Patrick Henningsen is running time buys to pad his extravagant traveling lifestyle.
I suspect just in time to confuse the goyim in alt-media as another engineered COVID virus is dropped for the 2024 election. Just watch.
Covid was a global operation so it does not revolve around the USA elections or should I say "selection". We've seen how they've cheated in 2020 and they had the nerve to do it again during the midterm elections too. Hell, some of the results during the midterm took over a week to be official. LOL (Alaska for instance)It's not the first time that they do this but it is the first time that it is unbelievably obvious.
Mail-in ballots
If it mattered, they would hire more people to count those ballots. They want us to believe that Alaska voted in a Democrat Eskimo woman for the house of representatives. It looks more like a UN agenda pick to me. LOL
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