On Fascism and Why it is The Answer
Tonight, join an Observer as we discuss the political movement of fascism. We will also discuss relevant current news.
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Ironically, fascism is what we have today.
Observer is hooked on the same slave mentality that have caused this earth suffering and pain for the entirety of recorded history. Better known as the always corruptible state he seems to love so much.
This is the eternal fallacy of the slave minded statist.
"If only we could get the right people in power, then everything will be great"
The state is like the ring of power. It corrupts all who attempts to wield it. The only solution is to destroy it. Which thankfully doesn't involve a trip to mordor. Just stop paying taxes. Starve the beast. The beast that throughout history have been the embodyment of the most horrible man made catastrophies. Observers loving state
Also. If you hate capitalism. Throw away everything you own and quit your job or business. Because that is the horrible practice of capitalism.
Good show Obs. There is always going to be a power center or centers, ruling groups at the top of the pyramid. The goals of that power center are what matter. Currently their goal is to genocide white people. The gang in power must be replaced with a group dedicated to preserving our race.
Dipshits like Douchepos think that we can have some kind of free market anarchy in place of rulers, which is just as stupid as these free loving liberal idiots that think they can create a color blind world of equality.
There will always be ruling gangs that maintain some kind of order. We must build a new power center that explicitly works for OUR interests or we, our children and all we've ever created will be gone.
Spoken like a true slave waiting for his messiah to come rule for his agenda.
Anarchy promotes leaders. You however is still in need of rulership. Still willing to sow the seeds of a corrupt society "governed" at the barrel of a gun. A mentality that have brought death and destruction to the people being ruled countless times throughout recorded history.
I pity your Stockholm syndrome.
"No man ought to obey any contract, written or implied, except he himself has given his personal and formal adherence thereto, when in a state of mental maturity and unrestrained liberty. It is only slaves that are born into contracts, signed and sealed by their progenitors.”
“The free man is born free, lives free, and dies free. He is (even though living in an artificial civilization) above all laws, all constitutions, all theories of right and wrong. He supports and defends them of course, as long as they suit his own end, but if they don’t, then he annihilates them by the easiest and most direct method.”
Ragnar redbeard.
@ Douche Pos - First off I will say it's a very appropriate name given your caliber of trolling.
Secondly, what we have today is not Fascism as fascism is a corporatist system in which the public-private partnership is dominated by the 'State' and used to harness the assets and resources of corporate power to benefit the 'state'/nation/people.
As Mussolini put it "everything within the state, nothing without".
What we have today is "reverse fascism" where the private sector dominates the private-public relationship and harnesses the government/'state' to serve those private interests - even if they are 100% opposed to the interests of the 'state'/people.
What you and many other dumb Alex Jones fags seem to miss is that this system, particularly in the U.S.A but globally as well, is entirely dominated by the private enterprises and interests, not "state power".
1. - The private interests create and fund the "think tanks" and "policy institutes" and "trusts" and other NGO's which craft the policies for government to follow.
2. - Private interests invest millions or billions to have "professional" lobby groups which push the government to adopt said privately crafted policies.
3. - The politicians sign off on those policies due to the private interest bribery(legal and illegal) and the private media matrix that make or break their political careers in a moment.
4. - A good portion of federal/state agencies at all levels, such as the FDA and EPA in the U.S.A, are "revolving doors" in which powerful people serving private interests can go back and forth - crafting corporate policies and then crafting government regulations to fit those policies, then going back to the bigger paychecks of the private sector... until needed to do more "regulation" within government, etc.
5. - Profit?
6. - Blame government for all the woes and ignore the real culprits in the private sector.
Of course nobody around here needs to be made aware of who/what those private interests are - the ones that serve the international banking cartels that gave them the means to have such power, aka 'the few'.
Peace
Tonight. Observer and I will be discussing this very topic on Circus Maximus
http://www.circusmaximusshow.com/listen-chat/
http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2013/02/07/fake-quote-files-mussolini-on-fascism-and-corporatism/
“Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power.”
The quote has been widely circulated on internet forums, after being popularized by Aaron Russo’s conspiracist documentary America: Freedom to Fascism. But there is simply no evidence that Mussolini ever said this. The first print source I could find was from Michael C. Ruppert’s 2004 book Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil – almost 60 years after Mussolini died.
For the record I also regard that quote as most likely a fake as I haven't found an original source either but the principle is the same - Hitler's Germany and Mussolini's Italy were "corporatist" in the sense that they merged corporate and government power.
But as I said the entire notion of Fascism comes from the 'fasces' of sticks that symbolizes that a group of sticks bound together as one bundle is stronger than the entire sum of all the individual sticks on their own.
That applies to the "corporatist" aspects as well where the sticks would present the corporations bound together within the windings of the state power.
There were no privately funded policy institutes creating NSDAP policy, there were no private lobby groups trying to milk Hitler to do their bidding and there were no political campaigns or bullshit to allow for private "campaign funding" aka "bribery" of NSDAP members.
That is the modern "Jewmocracy" predatory pseudo-capitalist regime that subjugates state power and the interests of the people for private interests and power.
Fascism makes the corporations work for the people to serve their interests, at least in theory(whether the fascist leader actually does serve their interests is another matter).
90% of America's modern political system from the private think-tank policy groups and the lobby groups to the campaign contributions/bribes and media collusion would be considered elements "against the state" - and as Mussolini clearly stated "nothing against the state" is fascist core policy.
*Cue Alex Jones* - "It's all the modern secret evil Nazi's that are doing all these things!"(that the original evil Nazi's despised and opposed viciously...)
Peace
Calls me a troll. Calls me an alex jones fag. Irony moar...
But alas. The fascist state would of course be incorruptable... right? Naive is an understatement.
Btw. Love how you blame corporations for all the worlds evils whilst ignoring the tool from which they gain their shit. That tool being a monopoly on violence. Aka the fucking state. Aka the institution that through 6000 years of recorded history have fucked the people a shitload of times. Be that a secular or religious one. And here you are applauding for more of the same. Tell me of these incorruptable angels of yours that will govern this utopia of yours...
Blood is thicker than money. That is why they have worked so hard to make whites believe there is no such thing as race. With no blood tie, money rules. That is what we face today. Western white nations filled with white men who's first and only allegiance is to whomever pays their paycheck. If we were led by men who were guided by what is best for our race, we would not be where we are today. Racially homogenous white nations can function well under many different forms of government. Once they go Babylon, nothing but police state tyranny can hold it together.
@ Douche POS - Firstly I didn't mean to say you were an Alex Jones fag as your views as stated here are clearly not the standard for his followers but rather I meant to say you were like them in your views on the modern world being "nazi" fascist.
Secondly I never have nor ever will claim anything human is incorruptible as corruption is human nature, that is a big part of the Jewish mystical views(light and darkness, duality, etc.) which I also generally follow under basic thelemic doctrines.
An accountable and transparent system under a nationalist fascistic type economic and social structure could be among the least corruptible systems around - but corruption will always find a way to get in but as long transparency allows it to be seen it can also in theory be dealt with easily.
From what I gather you support a more anarchistic system which is similar to what we started the Early Middle Ages with and which eventually gave birth to the feudalistic system.
Then corruption and personal ambition took over and the few with the most power built armies and started projecting their power onto other communities by force and through their own 'legal' systems and political doctrines.
That gave birth to the modern nation-state, which according to NWO ideology now gives way to the next advancement of globalization with a global state.
What you propose has been tried before and is one of the most susceptible systems to allow the type f corruption that gets us to where we are at right now today.
I'm not a full-blown fascist as I do believe an educated and aware and transparent citizenry can be trusted to have some significant say in their governance rather than a totalitarian system(JFK believed this as well as noted in his famous last speech).
I'm not being ignorant of corruption or being a misguided idealist in believing that a system that proved itself to work at controlling corruption very effectively is a good system for limiting corruption, but never eliminating it.
In my experience it is the anarchists that ignore the historical precedent of how such anarchist ideals gave birth to everything they hate so much including the corruption today and are misguided idealists wanting to eliminate corruption when it is simply not possible.
Peace
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