Friday, August 14, 2015

Spingola and Friends 8/13/2015

Continuing on from Monday’s broadcast, Deanna shares more information about Adam Lanza’s childhood history. Please visit her very comprehensive Sandy Hook Research page.
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18 comments:

mephistopheles lux said...

I have my doubts that "Adam Lanza" ever really existed.

Zeetip said...

Deanna shares more pretend truthy information about Adam Lanza’s childhood history, as "sourced" entirely from bonafide joosh "sources" who never lie, and who always tell the kosher twoof... yawn.

Several questions still remain unanswered by Deanna and her fanboys' latest astroturfing sock 'Michzel' from her last Talmudic Sandy Hoax Story Key Opinion Leader (KOL) show:
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/08/spingola-and-friends-8102015.html

So tell us Michzel: WRT your favorite "...investigative reporter [and] a teacher and a trail blazer showing by example HOW to get to the truth" guy, MCP; are you in MCP's (proclaimed) Boston Hoax-A-Thon-Was-Also-Real camp; or are you instead on board with Deanna and the other Boston 'HOAXERS'?? LOL :D

Do you Michzel, like Deanna, 'wonder aloud' whether the SH 'hoaxers' are being paid by big pharma... meanwhile being a 'hoaxer' yourself WRT Boston??

Drawing from MCP's own words, speaking of a topic which I believe he knew all too intimately. Ref:
http://tinyurl.com/qe7ap99

"[...] You know, someone can be an AGENT, working for somebody or some intelligence agency, or some force, and genuinely be anti-zionist, or genuinely be a critic of Israel. But they may still have another AGENDA. Because even some of these intelligence agencies have, how can I put this; you know, the left hand doesn't always know what the right hand is doing. [...]"

^ Heh, surely a coincidence that MCP seems to be describing MCP and the whole Pro Talmudic Sandy Hoax Story KOL team there!

I mean, a shill or a con(fidence) artist would NEVER have the AUDACITY, the CHUTZPAH, to deceive their targets by aggressively posturing themselves as "#1 Shill/Con/DELPHI-er WATCHDOG", would they?!? Deanna?!? :D

Separately, a couple recent Dr. Tracy guest appearances, both 1 hour:

w/host Patrick Henningsen,
http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/08/12/manufactured-terror-in-the-homeland

w/Guns & Butter,
http://gunsandbutter.org/blog/2015/08/12/sandy-hook-and-the-politics-behind-mass-shootings

Zeetip said...

August 14, 2015
$25K Reward Offered for “Irrefutable Proof” Sandy Hook Massacre Was REAL
http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/08/14/25k-reward-for-hard-evidence-sandy-hook-massacre-was-real
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RygOWYQEcXQ

I can already imagine a woman named 'Dianna' breathlessly running down the street to this guy's ^ house, waving around her Official Talmudic Sandy Hoax Report, and her $33.44 book "SPINing Sandy Hoax", & screeching hysterically,

"I've got your irrefutable proof right here! These are just the, the officers that were there; they talk about what they saw!! Now gimme my shekels!!" lol :D

Unknown said...

Sandy Hook was a hoax.

One of the most blatant & disgusting hoaxes ever, actually.

Why you keep posting this Deanna nonsense almost daily?

Be cool too, maaaannn, and stop this clownery!

Amanda said...

Here's an updated post w/videos from a guy offering $25K for irrefutable proof SH was real:
http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/08/14/25k-reward-for-hard-evidence-sandy-hook-massacre-was-real/

Apparently Soros' Raw Story distorted his message and now he's getting attacked by internet trolls:

“The website RAWSTORY.COM misquoted me in their article about my video offering a reward. I have been threatened by all manner of Internet TROLLS who are working off of the ASSUMPTION that *I* demanded that Sandy hook parents show up at MY DOOR. That is an absolute LIE.”-Joe Jones

Here's the RAWSTORY.com article (check out the comments): http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/watch-sandy-hook-truther-offers-25000-reward-for-irrefutable-proof-shooting-wasnt-a-liberal-scam/comments/#disqus

Christopher Marlowe said...

Zeetip put it well:
"[...] You know, someone can be an AGENT, working for somebody or some intelligence agency, or some force, and genuinely be anti-zionist, or genuinely be a critic of Israel. But they may still have another AGENDA. Because even some of these intelligence agencies have, how can I put this; you know, the left hand doesn't always know what the right hand is doing. [...]"

^ Heh, surely a coincidence that MCP seems to be describing MCP and the whole Pro Talmudic Sandy Hoax Story KOL team there!"

-->That pretty much summed up my feelings about MCP in the last year before he died. After he refused to acknowledge the Sandy Hoax and the Boston firecracker hoax, I started to wonder if he was some sort of agent. I stopped listening to his show. He called me some names because of my great online debate with Mark Glenn, where I showed that the sandy hoax was not real.

MCP was also closely associated with Mark Lane, who was closely associated with Jonestown. MCP always defended Lane. MCP always was defaming Christopher Bollyn...

What MCP said about intelligence agents not knowing what the other hands are doing starts to add up. Could it be that there are Agents who are given a free hand, and permitted to write books about some hoaxes, but not others? So an agent could write about book exposing the JFK assassination, and the holohoax, but not the Sandy Hoax?

Could it be that Bollyn and MCP were not enemies, but that their falling-out was a cover? Could it be that MCP is not dead but in witness protection? He permitted all of his books to be posted on pdfs, and encouraged people to download them. If he wasn't an agent, he certainly was a generous spirit.

Then MCP was fired from AFP. Then he had to move out of DC and into a motel in the middle of nowhere. Then his health failed and he died.

Who knows? I certainly don't. But all or none of these people could be agents. I wish that MCP was still alive though.

Michzel said...

Zeetip; you asked/stated, "Do you Michzel, like Deanna, 'wonder aloud' whether the SH 'hoaxers' are being paid by big pharma... meanwhile being a 'hoaxer' yourself WRT Boston??"

Well, let's try and think this through... here's an article demonstrating that George Soros funded the Ferguson demonstrators:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2913625/Billionaire-George-Soros-spent-33MILLION-bankrolling-Ferguson-demonstrators-create-echo-chamber-drive-national-protests.html

Do you think Big Pharma is more ethical than Soros?

Since the Sandy Hook shootings they've already covertly stepped up their mass screening and drugging curriculum. Are we to presume that they wouldn't fund so called select "Hoaxers" to distract folks from their highly lucrative and destructive scheme?

Maybe you can sue Big Pharma for your well-earned cash. (I mean you guys are really wandering away out there... into Wonderland.)

Zeetip said...

So tell us Michzel: WRT your favorite "...investigative reporter [and] a teacher and a trail blazer showing by example HOW to get to the truth" guy, MCP; about whom you added, "... belonged to that small group of people whose work is at such an impeccable level that jealousy from lesser talent draws on the power of a coordinated enemy and mysteriously support, on all levels, dries up and the victim dies" (ref: http://tinyurl.com/p39wovl ); are you in MCP's Boston-Hoax-A-Thon-Was-Also-REAL camp; or are you instead on board with Deanna and the other Boston 'HOAXER-adherents' ?? lol :P

OH Michzel, PLEASE don't tell us, after your glowing praise of Saint-MCP above, that you would now mysteriously abandon support of him (VICTIM™-izing him further, in his grave, no less!!) and his Boston-Hoax-A-Thon-Was-REAL position; in favor of those callous & psychopathic Boston 'HOAXER-adherents', the likes of Deanna?! :O


“And I cannot believe personally, that the 'hoaxers' are so callous, that they're not considering, 'hey you know what, this did happen, and what the heck are we doing? Re-VICTIM™-izing, every time that we bring something up, some kind of 'hoaxer' argument, we are re-VICTIM™-izing these people, and their dear, precious children!'
-- Deanna Spingola, 14 Dec 2014, ref: http://tinyurl.com/kd7guwg @ 55:00 in the MP3.


^ Say it aint so, MICHZEL!! :'(

Zeetip said...

Mostly in reply to Michzel's August 15, 2015 at 3:07 PM reply in the previous Mami's Deanna/S.Hoax (10 Aug) show thread:
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/08/spingola-and-friends-8102015.html?showComment=1439665672673#c6745457229293368691

As to MCP's former 9:00 to 10:00 PM obligation with RBN, from which he was abruptly fired (or according to MCP, he 'voluntarily departed' when he learned that his RBN position's termination was imminent), similar to his later "abrubt firing" from AFP experience; I believe (but "can't prove", I'll add preemptively!) that both of these position losses resulted from MCP's being an "unreliable drunk." 9-10 PM doesn't sound like "early evening hours" to me... hours during which MCP claimed he 'doesn't like to drink.' In your citing his former RBN schedule Michzel, you failed to mention the routine 'cancellations' which a 20:20 hindsight review of his show archives exhibit. Ditto for his periodically scheduled TUT shows. I personally heard him do shows, off hand I'll say circa '08-'10, whilst obviously "well lubricated." http://tinyurl.com/nlub2wq

AFP had the added incentive to terminate MCP in early 2014, because in addition to his being an "unreliable drunk" for years already; his health was also failing spectacularly (emergency quadruple bypass surgery in Jan or Feb '14, wasn't it?) resulting (I believe) ultimately from his alcohol addiction; thus his imminent/near-term medical bills & leave-time (& death) were untenable for AFP looking forward.

Safe to say, I don't believe MCP was 'murdered'. The history & kosher ownership of the alcohol industry is another can of worms! But alkees must take 'Personal Responsibility' for either recovering from their addiction, and/or suffering the adverse life events & health/early-demise consequences.

Ognir said...

So FATSO has just lost $23'000 to I presume cw wade, DS was very happy.

I can't remember what I previous said about him (Wolfgang), but something like "he wasn't one of us" or similar comes to mind.

I stated in previous thread that Deanna was present when Adam P Lanza was born, she had all the details on previous show and covers up to near the time when he kills himself (shot to the back of the head??)

However the SH Hoax only starts from this point

Og

Ognir said...

In previous audios about SH, Deanna has mentioned several times that a week after the event, John Friend came out calling it a hoax.

Since also Deanne is very good at doing follow-on show, reminding us of her facts etc that she maybe would like to revisit a post I reported on

Reply #18 on: December 16, 2012, 12:01:01 PM
http://theinfounderground.com/smf/index.php?topic=17051.msg69167#msg69167

There were 31 questions and I was wondering how many Deanna (+wade, johnson, new person) can now cross off the list today?


Connecticut Anamolies

1) As yet, we have not seen any concrete evidence that any child died.

2) As yet, parents have not been allowed to see their children. (Photoshopped pictures do not count.)

3) As of now, I have seen only one unambiguous statement from a grieving parent (Robbie Parker).

4) According to the official story, Adam Lanza was found with his older brother's ID, and it was not stolen. However, older brother Ryan--who officials say is very cooperative--claims not to have even seen his brother since 2010. Where would Adam get this ID? And why does such use not qualify as a theft?

5) According to the official story, Adam Lanza was wearing a black outfit with a mask and bulletproof vest. Why would he want to hide his identity, and why would he wear a bulletproof vest, if he planned to kill himself?

6) The medical examiner asserts that all wounds were caused by a rifle or other long weapon, and police/FBI say that the school was littered with .223 (rifle) casings. But Adam Lanza was found dead in the school with only handguns--a rifle was found in the trunk of his car. But then he could not possibly have been firing the rifle, and could not have committed the murders. Who did?

7) According to the official story, the killing was tightly confined to two classrooms. But then why were so many children told to close their eyes while leaving the building?

8 ) Joanne Didonato, the principal's secretary, called in sick on Friday -- something she rarely does. So presumably, she must have been awfully ill. Yet she then felt well enough to give an interview. "Of all days," she said, emphasizing the strange coincidence.

[Note from the Kung Fu Instructor: Joanne Di Donato is probably a Jewess. "Didonato" and "Donato" are surnames listed on the Jewish Surnames Index. Go to http://www.avotaynu.com/csi/csi-home.htm. The first name, "Joanne," begins with the letter "J." Many Jewesses have first names that begin with the letter "J." A similar thing happened on 911, when thousands of Jews did not go to work that day. The Kung Fu Instructor knows the wife of one of them, and she has since moved to Boca Raton, Fla., and has no visible means of support.]

9) The hospital went into lockdown and cleared four trauma rooms, but received only three patients, two of them dead children (according to the official story) and one mildly wounded adult.

10) Why were there such persistent reports that Mrs. Lanza was a kindergarten teacher, and that she died at the school, when the new official story is that she was not connected to the school and was killed at home?

Ognir said...

11) What happened to the report that Adam Lanza's girlfriend and another friend were missing in New Jersey?

12) What happened to the woodsman in a black jacket and camo pants who was arrested and handcuffed outside the school? He actually shouted to parents, "It wasn't me." Who was he and what was he doing there?

13) What happened to the dark van or SUV that the police surrounded in the parking lot, or the maroon sedan with a blown-out back window they were on the lookout for?

14) The official story is that Nancy Lanza was a gun collector who obeyed the law. But since 20-year-olds are not permitted to buy guns or ammo or carry guns in Connecticut, why would she give her "autistic" son access to both guns and ammo?

15) Why were parents told on Friday that "if you haven't been reunited with your child by now it's already over"? Does anyone imagine that real parents of real children would simply say, "Okay, the show's over, let's go home now"?

16) Would real parents of real children really be satisfied with (possibly photoshopped) pictures of their children? Wouldn't they demand to see their children one last time firsthand?

17) According to the official story, 28 people died but only 1 was wounded. The dead included 20 small, squirmy children--difficult targets even for professionals. How could Adam Lanza achieve such amazingly deadly accuracy, in such a short length of time?

18 ) A child asserts that he/she heard someone say, "Put your hands up," followed by the reply, "Don't shoot." This indicates that the police took a suspect into custody inside the school. But if that was Adam Lanza, how did he kill himself after that point?

19) Another child asserts that he/she saw a man pinned down to the ground with handcuffs on. Again, this indicates that the police took a suspect into custody. If that was Adam Lanza, how did he then kill himself?

20) When Ryan Lanza was falsely identified as the shooter, who deleted his Facebook profile and created many others in his name?

21) Is it reasonable for a geeky 20-year-old to carry two pistols and hundreds of rounds of ammunition while wearing a bulletproof vest and a mask?

22) Why did the police say on Friday that they were going to leave the bodies rotting in the school until Sunday, then Saturday morning announce that they had spirited the bodies away in the middle of the night? Perhaps to ensure that the transport, if any, would go unrecorded on photos or video?

23) Why won't police tell us where they found the Henry repeating rifle, the Enfield rifle, and the shotgun?

24) Did the school have one or more security cameras? What do they show?

25) Why did a police officer specifically mention, on radio, that "they're coming at me through this wood," followed by a fellow officer saying, "This is it"?

26) One officer in the school said, "We've got one suspect down." Who was that? Down in this situation generally means in custody (on the ground and cuffed), not dead.

27) Why didn't Adam's uncle see anything out of the ordinary in Adam when the two saw each other in June?

28 ) Why is Adam Lanza reported to be a loner when a teenager said (oxymoronically), "[Lanza and his friends] always gathered alone in a corner in school"?

29) Why did police assign an individual state trooper to every grieving family, whether the family wants such "protection" or not?

30) Why are Ryan Lanza and his roommates still in custody, and why are the police pretending that it's for their own benefit?

31) Is it a coincidence that Nancy Lanza's brother is Kingston Police Officer James Champion, who lives next door to the former Lanza home?

Michzel said...

Mephistopheles; Using your reasoning one could state, "there weren't no extinct animals cause I can't find one." How much evidence do you require for establishing that Adam Lanza existed? I suppose that the mountain of evidence sourced is invalidated simply because Deanna sites it?

Zeetip; Deanna's sources are from a multitude of independent records including first responders; to sum all of these up to be of Jewish origin makes me wonder if you and Mephistopheles were classmates in the same school.

Somewhere within your comments, Zeetip, you criticized my attempts at answering using adverbs and adjectives (you do know what those are, don't you?). Well, I guess it's the German in me; I like to be as exacting as possible to avoid misunderstanding. On the other hand I'm dyslexic when it comes to acronyms; what does WRT mean? Why not Just say Mike Piper? Leave the acronyms out until you define them; I'm convinced that overuse of acronyms is part of the dumbing down process--but that's just me.

John Statmiller never said why he dismissed Mike other than he was inconsistent, and yes, I hold to my statement that it's being artfully slanderous to twist a person's statement wherein he (or she) tries and clarifies a matter, by turning the person's words on it's head, and then proclaiming the clarifyer to be liar.

That appears to be your forte, by the way.

Mike's dead; and calling those who helped cut him off from support, complicit, is a New Testament concept. Such behavior is like carelessly putting one's parent into an Obamacare cave because you don't want to take care of them. I introduced Mike's situation into the conversation to expose the heart of well, I won't say.

But then again if you prefer making hoaxer noise while hiding the Corporate opportunistic hastening of yet another Hegelian-type program to get the consensus-mind to demand more psychiatric profiling bent toward atrophying the minds of our progeny; children!--one must wonder if your blindness is cultured apathy, as described by Deanna.

As for your list of Sandy Hook questions; C. W. Wade and Keith Johnson answered each a long time ago. But you wouldn't know this without seeing for yourself...

Zeetip said...

Michzel, maybe my 3rd inquiry will be the charm? :)

So tell us Michzel: WRT your favorite "...investigative reporter [and] a teacher and a trail blazer showing by example HOW to get to the truth" guy, MCP; about whom you added, "... belonged to that small group of people whose work is at such an impeccable level that jealousy from lesser talent draws on the power of a coordinated enemy and mysteriously support, on all levels, dries up and the victim dies" (ref: http://tinyurl.com/p39wovl ); are you in MCP's Boston-Hoax-A-Thon-Was-Also-REAL camp; or are you instead on board with Deanna and the other Boston 'HOAXER-adherents' ?? lol :P

OH Michzel, PLEASE don't tell us, after your glowing praise of Saint-MCP above, that you would now mysteriously abandon support of him (VICTIM™-izing him further, in his grave, no less!!) and his Boston-Hoax-A-Thon-Was-REAL position; in favor of those callous & psychopathic Boston 'HOAXER-adherents', the likes of Deanna?! :O

M.Dankof & D.Duke briefly discuss MCP's alkee affliction, 11:20 min mark:
http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/gqw5jzyj65/Duke.20150608.mp3

I've said in past comments in these Mami's Deanna Sandy Hoax KOL show threads that we agree on big pharma as an eeevil demonic mafia,
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?63470-Vaccine-BioWeapon-Awareness-Week-Deanna-Spingola-podcasts
^ I'm AKA PatColo there. Hope I don't need to repeat said anti-big-pharma sentiment in every comment? It's a false-dichotomy to try to frame S.Hoax researchers as pro-this and/or anti-that. Smallstorm, Halbig, Tracy, Fetzer, among I'd guess the majority of earnest Sandy Hoax researchers, all beat the 'pharma-agenda' drum wrt the multiple S.Hoax motives.

WRT = With Regard(s) To. Been around since long before the internets. You know what word 'RE:' abbreviates, Michzel?

"Kentucky man receiving threats from Sandy Hook gov’t narrative defenders"
http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/08/16/joe-jones-responds-to-raw-story-hit-piece
^ Isn't past.present.employers.gov.mil-snitch Keith Johnstein somewhere around KY?


If you return to respond again Michzel, don't forget to tell us whether or not you're a Boston 'HOAXER-adherent' like Deanna. :)

Anonymous said...

I said soon in the next day that SH was a hoax. I did not wait a week

Michzel said...

Zeetip; I used the word "impeccable" referring to Mike Piper's work assuming that the reader would understand the truism that no compilation of one's life work at the microscope level is perfect. My mistake for overlooking your microscope.

Apparently you're bating me while trying to get me to fall into the "hoaxer" camp and wandering off to an irrelevant subject; why? And now you appear to acknowledge Big Pharma's Hegelian dialectic-methodology yet hold to a hoax-view of Sandy Hook. If that's your view, why are you so adamant in denigrating others holding their own non-consensus views?

Thanks for digging up the audio of David Duke and Pastor Dankof's eulogy of Mike Piper. At the 12:10 and the 16:45 marks the pastor confirms my thought regarding the withdraw of support contributing to Mike's death. I guess, Zeetip, that you haven't lived long enough to understand that all have weaknesses that potentially hasten them to destruction. But to distract from the self-sacrificing work of one faithful in the pursuit of truth by pointing your finger at the man's weakness is an argument that betrays whatever good intentions you have.

Notwithstanding, beyond all this I'll bet the sharper folks following Deanna's work marvel at the myopic distractions we've introduced.

Negentropic said...

@ "Also, the libertarian answer of removing the government completely is not an answer. Very early on, the video presents "tariffs" as being a product of improper business influence. But tariffs also protect national labor and build local economies. Being anti-tariff also happens to be the Jew-World order view."

Leadership and government (control of the mind) are two different things. For the proper leadership or so-called "government" we need look no further than the functional family unit and neighborhood and extrapolate from that outwards. Problem is, most people lose their principles as soon as the numbers of extended families and communities become large. They start thinking they can have their cake and eat it too (the same deliberately engineered mass-populace fantasy that is exploited through the fractional reserve bankster scam) . Fuck that. You never compromise principles, you only temper them to fit better according to context.

Tariffs are not free enterprise. They are forced extortion and protectionism, just like taxes and unions, or, for that matter, anything not voluntarily engaged in, in principle. BUT they can be valid as SELF-DEFENSE, in order to RESTORE free enterprise or an even playing field IF outside tribes are using tariffs to discriminate against your tribe unfairly. They are a leveling tool or weapon IF others are using the same initiated force against you. However, if YOU initiate tariffs then it is you who are not for "free" enterprise (ALWAYS outside of a system of usury and legalized counterfeiting and the controlled brainwashing media institutions that go with it; to even speak of "free" anything within a system of slavery as obvious as the world-wide Jew usurocracy of today is absurd; only very brief periods of more-or-less so-called "free enterprise" have ever existed in history, one of them being in the USA post-Jackson/pre-Lincoln). These ass-wipe Ayn-Rand libertarians with their all-or-nothing, black-&-white Aristotelian linguistic-prison logic are either shills like Rand herself or don't really understand what they're talking about most of the time, since the Aristotelian system already shafts them half-way up the kiester mentally before their high-falutin' arguments are even out of the starting gate. The real problem is being forever imprisoned by the 2000 year old Aristotelian system. Read this book for the real dope on that (ignore the holohoax and cold-war-hoax crap) by a close colleague of McLuhan who studied this stuff for decades:


http://www.slideshare.net/TheOccultTruthDotCom/the-age-of-manipulation-wilson-bryan-key

I was stupid enough to be led by the nose by a lot of these Von Mises groupies in the past, but I think most of the Austrian school (mostly Jew except for Hayek and a couple of others) is limited hangout against Jefferson/Adams, Jackson, Lysander Spooner and, of course, and always, Hitler. Rothbard even was a strong promoter of Lysander Spooner without ever emphasizing the Rothschilds in his writings the way Spooner did so vehemently and, of course, without ever conceding that the National Socialist economic system (based strictly on the principle of private property but far from "libertarian") was one of the most successful in all of recorded history.

Negentropic said...

Given fully consolidated mainstream media monopoly in just 6 hands controlling gigantic multi-nationals for the entire world and FULL COMPLICITY with everything the big-bosses say by the TV anchors and all the important people working the top spots at most of the major networks, there are basically three or four basic ways that I currently know of faking victims or any other protagonists in a pre-manufactured PsyOp:

1) Completely from scratch on a computer. A person that never existed with a family and circle of friends that never existed. MOST of the 911 Victims were faked this way

2) An actor given a fake identity who acts as a "victim" or relative, friend or acquqintance of a faked "victim" in the PsyOp and then goes back to his real identity. If anyone tells him "you look like this or that guy on the 9-11 (or other PsyOps) 'victims' list," or "friends and relatives list," he simply denies it and says "I'm not that guy, look I have a different name." Even if some extremely rare and persistent investigative reporter proves that it is the same guy under a different identity, WHO will air his findings? Certainly not the mainstream channels and few of the alternative media gatekeeping channels as well. Richard Gage and his bogus army of 20,000 "architects and engineers" certainly won't take the case, since, they are all still plane-huggers and victims-huggers full on and neither would Alex Jones, the biggest shill of all, who only accepts media-fakery on Sandy Hook (as "street-cred" maintaining bait for his other hooks) and not on any other PsyOp.

3) An actor who acts as himself, under his real identity, and pretends to die in the PsyOp, then is given a completely new identity and goes into a witness protection program somewhere with a big wad of cash (printed out of thin air by usurers and counterfeiters, of course) to keep him happy. However, an actor used like this would have to have very few family and friends, since he would be almost completely separated from his former life in his new life. Therefore it's much easier for the other acting scenario.

4) Actors of either the #2 or #3 variety whose facial characteristics are morphed and animated just enough to hide what they look like, therefore making it almost 100% safe for them to engage in the deception. I don't think this was fully possible in 2001, but it is certainly possible today.

Since the mass-public have been conditioned for decades to be dumb-as-rocks anyway, the first option, faking them from scratch, works the best, utilizing maximum "big lie" psychological technique and leaves the most options open for the perps: who to blame, exactly who to victimize, what false trails to lay for dissenters to keep them busy chasing their tails for years, etc. A few actors given prominence like Bob McIlvaine, Mark "Harley Guy" Walsh, Willie Rodriguez, Robbie Parker, Gene Rosen, etc. pretending to have "witnessed" this or that or lost relatives or friends or acquaintances, and in the case of the biggest and most shameless treasonous fraudster actor of all, Howard Lutnick of Cantor Fitzgerlad, even claim to have lost 657 employees, including his own brother on 9-11!

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=224648&page=10