October 28, 2019

De Facto Congressman, Allen West Confesses U.S. President is CEO! 2011


12 comments:

Jacky Vanmarsenille said...

That is very interesting. I have never heard THEM actually say "United States Corporation" like that before.

zapoper said...

Me either. You can thank Chainsawmillerman for posting it in the chat.

slurp said...

So what.

He is the head of the executive branch of the government. He literally is the chief executive officer.

And the country is NOTHING MORE than the incorporation or coming together of indivividuals, townships, counties and states.

If countries and states and counties and cities and boroughs were not corporations to whom would we pay our taxes? Individuals? And would we sue these individuals when we tripped over a paving stone, or our car was swallowed by a sinkhole, or their air force bombed our wedding? And how would 'we' have paving stones, roads and air forces if we didn't somehow co-operate and incorporate?

Truthers are hung up on the word 'corporate' and it makes no sense at all, except when you figure the Mises influence on the Bircher movement and the anti-Nazi impetus. Ignorant ideas about Fascism meaning Big Business running government.

Alex Jones seeded terms like corporate, shill and fascist in this broad 'truther' movement in a way that has corrupted the meanings of these terms for fully a decade and a half after we were first listening to him.

And God only knows what 'de facto' is imagined to mean here. I guess someone just thought it sounded clever.

Chains said...

No, regions of the United States may or may not be organized and incorporated. Cities, towns etc are often incorporated in the United States. That's not the same as corporations, it means they are “incorporated within the United States.” If the United states is a corporation and your ok with that, who holds the shares? Do you have a few locked up in your safe LOL
Secondly I have no doubt we have been converted into legal fictions through contract into statutes. They always offer some benefit or privilege to enter into these statutes that almost always redefine you into a legal fiction with a Capitalized name. For example you are a "driver" under the motor vehicle act. Do you sign that contract for the license? We are slaves bro.We contract into just about everything they offer us, so you can't blame our masters. Everything is commerce even marriages are really corporate mergers for fuck sake. Good luck fighting this on your own though.

De Jure is a Latin expression that means legitimate or lawful. When we talk of governments, we mean de jure governments in place that implies legally elected, and so recognized by other states. However, if in a state or a country it so happens that there is someone calling the shots from behind the scenes and having the real reigns of power in his hands, he is said to be the de facto power. This is the what the USA is. Its been known for many years Around 1933 for sure. Americans are walking dirt that represent the land that was lost to the bankers. The people have been sold into bondage as collateral on the bankruptcy.

Why do people use truther as a pejorative? Have some respect for yourself and your fellow man. Truth is all we have on our side MANNN!

Chains said...

In Canada under the elections act the legal fiction is known as an "elector" Not sure what the statute in the USA defines the legal fiction as. Anyway by doing this to us we forfeit constitutional rights for rights set out in the statute. Remember you have the right of contract and can volunteer to be a slave.It is this way unless there is unequivocal language stating you have rights under some other law or statute within the one your contracting into. Think back how many statutes are you in that you didnt have to sign to enter into. So as an "Elector" I'm allowed to vote LOL Also in Canada there is an Interpretations act that some statutes use as there defalt definitions. Statutes can redefine you though.

slurp said...

They are all corporations. Your garbled 'freeman' gibberish is self-contradictory.

Chains said...

Its not gibberish Slurp. When cities and smaller towns incorporate they do not become separate entities independent of the USA. Usually unincorporated areas are subject to County ordinances. But city ordinances can supersede or augment county rules. USA being a corporation itself is proof of something that should concern you. WHO HOLDS THE SHARES? The other stuff i posted about statutes is well known. I don't fight it, but it would be nice if we all agreed to put an end to it as a collective in some sort of class action arrangement. Unfortunately there are so many Slurps out there rejecting or completely unaware of this scam.

zapoper said...

Hey Chainsaw. Can you get in your chatango account? I want to send you a PM. (No it's not Justin Trudeau) LOL

Chains said...
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slurp said...

Nobody who comes forms a legal corporation becomes independent of the USG or any other government, and I didn't imply that. You're clouded by the rote rhetoric you've been indoctrinated to repeat to others as it was rote repeated to you.


These organisations, towns, cities, counties, states, and countries are corporations, that is legal entities formed by people coming together and registering their controlling interest, in this case over a certain geographic area. Sometimes it's an enterprise or a charity or an amateur sports club. That's what a corporation is. Incorporation is the process of doing so. That's the legal definition; the normally understood definition; the only definition outside of misled conspiracy subcultures.

I don't care at all that the US is a corporation, essentially a land-trust, controlled by the American people for their own interests commercial and social and individual. Your issue is your hirelings' mismanagement and betrayal of this project.

. said...

I know something that you people, most likely, do know, but, just in-case some of you do not, here it is:

all of that land that is called "national-preserves", and "national-parks", IS ACTUALLY LAND THAT IS COLLATERAL FOR DEBTS TO FOREIGN-NATIONS...

Just IMAGINE if the commoner, TRULY, understood-the-significance-of-that fact.

slurp said...

said, how could it not be? In just the sense that your own individual property is subject for transfer to creditors should YOU default, lands held in the national trust are subject to the same process. Recently Greek islands were sold to private investors when *they* made Greece go bust.

None of this either controversial or surprising to any reasonable reader. It gets talked up as arcane and mysterious to people who don't know already how states and localities and other corporations must and do relate to one another quite openly.

The rest not necessarily directed to said, but at anyone FMOTL/SC minded ...

This whole subschool of conspiracy culture is an op that operates as 1) a fruitless rabbit-hole that only lands you up in jail if you push it too far; 2) a turn-off for the higher IQ people any movement needs because it's so obviously bogus, 3) a diversion from the relevant disruptive questions: who/whom? (Us vs Jews) toward an elite-manageable one, what/which? (individual vs corporation).

And it's also self-perpetuating because every few years a new morph emerges where a fella thinks he's got the Great Keycode that will finally set us all free, and he makes a ton of dosh selling videos and books, but a new generation of innocent lambs only get sheared. Meanwhile the real world doesn't change - from Mary Elizabeth Croft to Winston Shrout to John Harris. The self-perpetuating-ness of the liberal/conservative managed dialectic is a model for so much of our culture. Compound interest culturalized.

Look, be as libertarian as you want to be; be against all forms of government; opt out altogether of society and move if you can't abide the status quo. But don't believe gibberish and never talk gibberish in court.