April 21, 2021

Enoch Powell & Jonathan Miller Debate Issues Around UK Immigration


 The Man with the extra large bagel sniffer does his best to confuse Powell but to no avail...Such a conversation would never be allowed nowadays.

9 comments:

davID²³ said...

His phrase to the British about us witnessing "rivers of blood" was targeted for decades as an over-zealous, hateful rant.... but it's strange how after this approach in the 70s and 80s, you rarely hear it being either used or indeed attacked in the current era...

Maybe a prediction whose time has now manifested - for even the most blindly "progessive" types who can no longer escape the tenticles of enforced multi culturalism.

Scorpio said...

Yeah, Powell was a prophet in many ways and never would have been allowed on the political stage in today's political climate. Thanks for the insights --- good to see someone from the ConCen days.....oh the memories! - lol

davID²³ said...

Oooh, no no no... Our friends in 'the tribe' would employ their chicken manure fuelled, minority report type linguistics machinery to prevent any statement close to Powell's from even being uttered...
And yet Powell's rivers flow pretty well in this land, unless you're nicely sequestered in an English country estate, complete with medieval moat.

I've just clicked that 'Scorpio'was another handle from the concenTral days. It's good to see that a few ppl have collected together longer term from that forum, which last time I checked was still ticking over.

Yup, memories from some hectic times over there. It was like a family soap opera in the early days of the forum. I recall some group threatening to put a bit out on one of the admins over being banned :-) ! Sure there are many more tales of hilarity from those days if I dusted off a few memory cells.

davID²³ said...

That should say HIT not "bit" above... Can't see an edit button.

Chains said...

If you don't think that this program was planned to discuss and establish the racial/cultural diversity as a positive you are naive. These early discussions always suggested it was real opportunity to be wonderful welcoming men and women. What is never asked is why do these people want to come and live among us? Not to assimilate but to bring their own "cultural enrichment".This is absurd, and the same model was used to take women out of the house and away from raising children, accepting transgender or even the idea of antisemitism which started to pick up speed just shortly before this time capsule above.

This is/was theater and it was meant to teach you to practice a more inclusive and diverse point of view. Pierre Trudeau was getting it all ready to go in Canada too using the same talking points. Canada was never a real Country and certainly is not now. It was a British colony and it really has no cultural markers left that it had when this program aired. So you have to tip you hat to this Phonetician bloodline that have been genociding and shaping and streamlining cultures for their benefit for millennia. They have proven that they are our superiors and all wecan do is either whine about it or accept it.

The interesting contribution is that feminism and racial diversity were used as a one two punch IMO. Women are emotional and want harmony but of course it take men to call a spade a spade. Men have lost their way and morality has been discarded and now men mostly just keep their mouths shut because they are pigs.

Chains said...

I should say men were pigs. Now they carry purses and where their hair in a bun LOL

Archie Titus said...

Miller grew up in St John's Wood, London, in a well-connected Jewish family. His father Emanuel (1892–1970), who was of Lithuanian descent and suffered from severe rheumatoid arthritis, was a military psychiatrist and subsequently a paediatric psychiatrist at Harley House. His mother, Betty Miller (née Spiro) (1910–1965), was a novelist and biographer who was originally from County Cork, Ireland. Miller's elder sister Sarah (died 2006) worked in television for many years and retained an involvement with Judaism that Miller, as an atheist, always eschewed.

I wonder if Enoch was Jew-wise?

Chains said...

Where = wear :)

davID²³ said...

I'm guessing Enoch was Zio aware if not so much wise.

Like most of the post War British population the focus was far more on the Windrush era off-loading followed by the Asian waves that flowed shortly after.

The Jewish issue has a longer and more covert history where nefarious influence could be exercised just as effectively from outside the nation and by many more less obvious mechanisms than just the obvious factors that emerge from flooding a civilization in the literal sense.